Dublin City Fold

**CollegeTillIDie** · 19/07/2006, 11:26 PM

The Stars
Ciaran Martyn played for UCD in Europe in 2000. I don't thing Strandhill Road FC ever played in Europe!

**dfx-** · 19/07/2006, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

Always knew it would end like this for Seery's Continuity Home Farm, just surprised that the end happened so quickly.

Depressing for the very few DC fans I suppose, but as above - we all knew it was inevitable, perhaps it is because it is surprising that's bringing the gloaters and bitter reactions out of the woodwork.

It's like the death of the last Pope, everyone knew it was goign to happen shortly enough and had pre-prepared their reactions to the demise.

**The Stars** · 20/07/2006, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Do they have good coaches on the streets of sligo aswell??

the best....

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

The Stars
Ciaran Martyn played for UCD in Europe in 2000. I don't thing Strandhill Road FC ever played in Europe!

no such team as Strandhill Road FC.
Get your facts right before coming on here.......

**Roverstillidie** · 20/07/2006, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

Couldn't agree more -where were you in 2001/2002, you could have told that to the FAI!

Always knew it would end like this for Seery's Continuity Home Farm, just surprised that the end happened so quickly. Although the fact that this hasn't even been a major story in the sports bulletins this evening shows that maybe the signs were there but nobody really cared.

The good news for the league is that this was surely a one-off. The only way this would happen again is if there was another club with financial difficulties, a history of overspending for short-term success, no ground, no great tradition in the area they play in, a small but unquestioning fanbase and 99.99% owed by one person....

to be fair, when we were doing CRO watch a few months ago a few clued in hoopers predicted the end would be this soon. the auditors report was posted here before and sounded the bells, but no-one cared because they knew this day was coming.

it was an experiment in franchise that failed. it really frustrates me that rocky didnt decide to try and help an existing side. imagine rovers with the carrolls backing.... ego and debt are a bad mix.

**alabama rover** · 20/07/2006, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by sonofstan

that's true. Home Farm never had much catchment potential in the wider Mayo area

or any other area!

KOH

**Dodge** · 20/07/2006, 12:54 AM

Awful PR for the league, shows what a joke it is. LOL at rovers fans glee. I', sure I'd be the same.

In Dublin Citys last ever official league game, they relegated Rovers. For that alone they'll have a special place in my heart.

If the franchises are all going bust are Cork City next? Probably not. Wonder will the Shels fans still not believe the "rumours" despite them being right about Dublin City.

Bad news for the league, bad news for Shels and Bohs. Bad news for Lee Roche who signed for them last week and will now be known as a club killer.

Good news for Derry and Rovers (and probably Limerick and/or Waterford too) and any club doing things right

Hope their fans stick around the league. Hope Seery never comes near football again. If he's allowed back in by a club the way Cork invited Kilcoyne back, the FAI should resign enmasse

**sligoman** · 20/07/2006, 1:07 AM

So, where's Keely off to next?

.

**Aaron** · 20/07/2006, 1:09 AM

So, where's Keely off to next?.

The Dole

**joema** · 20/07/2006, 2:44 AM

I think in the long term this is good for the el. But still Im gutted for the DC fans - hope they stay around the league.

Btw whoever said that UCD bring nothing to the league must have been on drugs when they posted that

**mypost** · 20/07/2006, 2:49 AM

Originally Posted by Derek

I had some great times watching the games and will never forget sending Rovers down to the dungeon of the LOI.

We survived relegation. Promotion crippled you.

might just concentrate on my junior soccer.

Home Farm are a junior soccer side, and a highly respected and formidable one at that level. They will win leagues and cups there.

Originally Posted by stevodagull

I feel terrible for the fans of Dublin City

How many fans are we talking about here?? 5, 10, 15??

Originally Posted by tommyt

The ones I feel most sorry for are Cobh, we deserved to be relegated but they were denied a shot at the premier by that **** take of a club.

The tragedy of it all, is that we would have kept our place in the Premier Division had this happened 6 months ago, so there would have been a 12-team league.

Home Farm, a long-established, and highly successful club at junior football, were once a club that spotted great players that went on to fame and fortune elsewhere, both at home and abroad, and at international level, Ronnie Whelan being one of the more recent examples. They were never a much-loved club, but when they renamed their LOI side in 2000, in a cynical fashion under a commercial title, they lost any respect and credibility they had gained before. Even with the name change, the club's operations remained the same at every level, from the fan base, to their record on the field, even up to the club colours, and therefore could not be recognised as a brand new club, as others wanted to do, making their demise as a LOI club inevitable.

As they were due to play Home Farm at Dalymount on November 17 this year, UCD will finish the season one week earlier than everyone else after Week 32 of the current campaign. Killester are expected to receive a bye into the FAI Cup quarter-finals, as a result of Home Farm's demise at LOI level.

**joema** · 20/07/2006, 3:02 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

We survived relegation. Promotion crippled you.

Home Farm are a junior soccer side, and a highly respected and formidable one at that level. They will win leagues and cups there.

How many fans are we talking about here?? 5, 10, 15??

The tragedy of it all, is that we would have kept our place in the Premier Division had this happened 6 months ago, so there would have been a 12-team league.

Home Farm, a long-established, and highly successful club at junior football, were once a club that spotted great players that went on to fame and fortune elsewhere, both at home and abroad, and at international level, Ronnie Whelan being one of the more recent examples. They were never a much-loved club, but when they renamed their LOI side in 2000, in a cynical fashion under a commercial title, they lost any respect and credibility they had gained before. Even with the name change, the club's operations remained the same at every level, from the fan base, to their record on the field, even up to the club colours, and therefore could not be recognised as a brand new club, as others wanted to do, making their demise as a LOI club inevitable.

As they were due to play Home Farm at Dalymount on November 17 this year, UCD will finish the season one week earlier than everyone else after Week 32 of the current campaign. Killester are expected to receive a bye into the FAI Cup quarter-finals, as a result of Home Farm's demise at LOI level.

Who cares how many fans? They were attached to DC and now it is gone from the el - put yourself in their position ffs.
I hate all this snobbery towards clubs like DC, UCD, Kilkenny City, Mons... - this attitude of lets laugh at them for even trying, sure they have no fans who cares about them.
What would you do if tomorrow even more people became disillusioned with your club and decided to stop going to games - would you deserve to be laughed at and put down just for being a loyal fan?????!!!

And what "tragedy" are you on about? Rovers were terrible and deserved to go down - simple as that - get over it!!

**Dodge** · 20/07/2006, 3:12 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

The tragedy of it all, is that we would have kept our place in the Premier Division had this happened 6 months ago, so there would have been a 12-team league

Yeah but the irony is that Rovers were in a worse financial state and their board were allowed rack up even more debt to help "save" them for relegation (the last two years). Debts that could have seen Rovers kicked out. Rovers have NO right to say they deserve to be in the premier (and fair play to tommyt for spotting this.

**mypost** · 20/07/2006, 3:37 AM

Originally Posted by joema

Who cares how many fans? put yourself in their position ffs.

As it happens, we were facing their position last year, yet we had the support network of a fan base to get us out of it. A club is worth nothing without a fan base. Players go, bosses go, directors go, sponsors go, but fans stay. Home Farm had no fan base to speak of to rescue them,
and they folded.

Originally Posted by Dodge

Rovers have NO right to say they deserve to be in the premier.

Do you want to play in an 11-team league, with no game on 2 weekends because of it? That's the alternative.

**dav_sfc** · 20/07/2006, 5:57 AM

I think the games getting wiped is not only right but it is fair to ALL clubs.

Derry lost to a club that were operating above its means.

If Dublin City had cut their cloth at the start of the season so they could survive a FULL season then i don't think they could have fielded a squad fit to beat anyone in the league!

Waterford are currently paying the price for living within their means and have yet to register a win. Dublin City should have done the same.

I do feel sorry for the fans though and I don't think the short history means they should care less. It took me all of 45 minutes to get addicted to Shels and live football. And that was nil-all draw in the end ffs!! (I blame my addictive personality and obsession with football but that's another story.)

So i can see how a Dublin fan could feel the same way as any other fan if their club went under.

Personally I hated Dublin City with a passion when Roddy was at the helm. After that Roddy to Rovers debacle I wanted to see the sweet revenge that was eventually had when they played off against Rovers. (Though it would have been sweeter had Roddy not been relieved of his duties at the time.)
That's how my soft spot for them developed, (well at least my hatred went away!)

And before someone beats me too it, I hope Shels have done the maths well too or cut the proverbial cloth where necessary.
If the money from the sale of Tolka is managed properly there should be no, or at least less, problems in the future so the doomsday prophets can put a sock in it. Shels are not going the way of Rovers or Dublin City.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 20/07/2006, 6:48 AM

Originally Posted by The Stars

the best....

no such team as Strandhill Road FC.
Get your facts right before coming on here.......

Well you mentioned " The Streets of Sligo" that's a street in Sligo....

**Ringo** · 20/07/2006, 7:24 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Fair dues. DC weren't ones for paying bills, as far as I know!

So Bohs were paid & the players are up to date

**Macy** · 20/07/2006, 7:43 AM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Do they have good coaches on the streets of sligo aswell??

Depends on who the away team is...

All this talk of Seery honouring wages, it'd be interesting to see whether he honoured the full wage bill. It's the tax that clubs are struggling on, particularly part time clubs where it's 50% approx (between PAYE and PRSI) of the cost, not the net amount to the players.

**BohsPartisan** · 20/07/2006, 7:47 AM

I think this vindicates the critics of the league's decision to allow a "new" Dublin club into the league in 2001 to "replace" Home farm. Technically, HF went back to non league football, thechnically DCFC were a new club and would have had to apply for league membership. AFAIK this didn't happen. The last thing the league needed was another Dublin club at that stage and this shows what a hairbrained scheme DCFC really was. So will there be a sale in Carrolls Irish Gifts?

**CollegeTillIDie** · 20/07/2006, 7:47 AM

Originally Posted by joema

Who cares how many fans? They were attached to DC and now it is gone from the el - put yourself in their position ffs.
I hate all this snobbery towards clubs like DC, UCD, Kilkenny City, Mons... - this attitude of lets laugh at them for even trying, sure they have no fans who cares about them.
What would you do if tomorrow even more people became disillusioned with your club and decided to stop going to games - would you deserve to be laughed at and put down just for being a loyal fan?????!!!

And what "tragedy" are you on about? Rovers were terrible and deserved to go down - simple as that - get over it!!

Well said. Besides big clubs need small clubs to play against , otherwise they'd be playing each other 20 times a season.!