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    He is a newbie and a dope,thank god he is gone know and we don't have to hear him talkin boll*cks,part-time supporter!
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    Does look like more than 100 seats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nshoop
    He is a newbie and a dope,thank god he is gone know and we don't have to hear him talkin boll*cks,part-time supporter!
    Knowing 'Thomas' quite well it is possible to misinterpret his viewpoints as that of a 'dope' however he is far from a newbie part time supporter, merely a misunderstood one!!

    Oh and i have the health & safety plan for Morton & it's fire cert here in front of me, 799 seats exactly is the sum stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DvB
    Oh and i have the health & safety plan for Morton & it's fire cert here in front of me, 799 seats exactly is the sum stated.

    Koh
    Fair enough,can't argue with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
    *RDS - unlikely due to cost.
    Never stopped Shels before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
    What's the club license minimum? 1500?
    1500, with a proviso that if you can talk about your superb new 10000-seater ground plans without laughing, you can get away with any figure you want.

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    Well said stu.
    Shels will not be kicked out on the grounds of too few seats as theres far too many loopholes, sadly.

    Its a disgrace that we can have grounds in the Premier Division like Santry but its gonna happen and when it does it probably wont be any better then whats there at the moment.

    Plenty of plans and I think it will be the best move of all the current options but moving in to Santry in its current state looks like something we have to do. Eventually it will be a decent sized ground and its in a good area. Whoever thinks its out in the middle of nowhere needs their head examined.

    Sadly we have to start from scratch again but in a couple of seasons time it will be better than Tolka is at present.
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    I thought the new super duper league is acknowledgement that licencing has failed and a line is being drawn where new standards will be set and will have to be adhered to?

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    How long a lease is required
    Always look on the bright side of life

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    Quote Originally Posted by higgins
    Sadly we have to start from scratch again but in a couple of seasons time it will be better than Tolka is at present.
    Judging by the picture a few posts above it looks like one of the biggest sh!tholes I have ever seen. If Shels had to start from scratch to improve it, I presume it would be better to build a new ground on a new site that wouldn't have the hindrance of an athletics track. But I presume the reason they have not decided to go down that route is for financial reasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
    Judging by the picture a few posts above it looks like one of the biggest sh!tholes I have ever seen. If Shels had to start from scratch to improve it, I presume it would be better to build a new ground on a new site that wouldn't have the hindrance of an athletics track. But I presume the reason they have not decided to go down that route is for financial reasons?
    If they could sell tolka they could build a new stadium but i think it belongs to the council and some cycling organisation.
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    Shels don't own Tolka, as far as I know. They own a lease on Tolka, which would be worth a lot less. Certainly not enough to build a new stadium. They can get Government grnts like any other club, of course.

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    Shels don't own Tolka, as far as I know. They own a lease on Tolka, which would be worth a lot less. Certainly not enough to build a new stadium. They can get Government grnts like any other club, of course.
    Its more than wot we have!!

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    Drogheda are currently in the Premier Division with about 370 seats.
    One question to Shels fans. Honestly tell me, and I am not having a go here, Santry is better than Tolka Park? Please explain

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    I don't think it is, not many Shels fans like the idea of Santry unless it means we last for a few more decades, many are proposing a move to the RDS which is being re-developed!-
    Who Cares?!

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    How would you work the RDS for a soccer team?
    thats not going to happen

    As for building from scratch on a fresh site the problem is we cant. Land prices are too high unless you move to the middle of nowhere. The Donabate deal was ok as the area would have been built up eventually but the land price went way up and the sale of Tolka would not cover that.

    Sharing was the only option in the end and Ollie went for the Dalymount idea with the FAI. I was always against this as I am with going to Tallaght or Richmond. I'd gladly share in a new stadium with plenty of room but not one thats existing already and will probably get a new stand or so.

    Why move from Tolka??
    Well after the floods some years back it kickstarted the hunt for a new ground. The council have plans for the area and its in their interest to get shels out so they would look favourably on us even if we only hold the lease.

    They dont want us kicked out which is why the buyers cant really do much if the council dont back them so I think the best idea now is a move to Santy. Tolka has no room for expansion and would cost a packet to re develope.

    We can go to Santry and receive grant money with some cash of our own from the sale of Tolka (dont mind the Bohs figures) and build something worthwhile. Its in a decent area location wise and we remain close enough to Tolka for the existing fanbase.

    I think its the best option and hope it happens fairly soon.
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    the RDS is almost as expensive as LR and closed for the horse show for all of august.

    forget about it, we already sussed it out and if its a non-runner for us to retuen their....

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    Quote Originally Posted by higgins
    I think the best idea now is a move to Santy.
    You'll get nothing from him this Christmas - Ollie's been a naughty boy!
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    Why move from Tolka??
    Well after the floods some years back it kickstarted the hunt for a new ground. The council have plans for the area and its in their interest to get shels out so they would look favourably on us even if we only hold the lease.

    They dont want us kicked out which is why the buyers cant really do much if the council dont back them so I think the best idea now is a move to Santy. Tolka has no room for expansion and would cost a packet to re develope.

    We can go to Santry and receive grant money with some cash of our own from the sale of Tolka (dont mind the Bohs figures) and build something worthwhile. Its in a decent area location wise and we remain close enough to Tolka for the existing fanbase.

    I think its the best option and hope it happens fairly soon.[/QUOTE]


    Unlike Shels fans, Bohs members were privy to the exact deal/fiasco that was put on the table realyer, hence its overwhelming rejection by our membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
    Santry is better than Tolka Park? Please explain
    It's not. They just don't have a choice.

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    Just wondering if Shelbourne will be repaying the grant they received to build the new stand in Tolka, from the proposed pay-off from the developers. What happens to Shels if they keep paying players more than they can afford. Their lease in Santry will be short term. If they find themselves in financial difficulties their is no going back.
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