Eircom League Co Efficient for 2006/2007

**pete** · 10/08/2006, 8:56 PM

Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

amazing !! our highest EVER !!

We had higher totals in the late 70s & early 80s but only around 32-33 countries & completely different points system.

It may be difficult to gain much more in places this season but any eL club in europe next season will have at least 1.866 club ranking points compared with around 1.5 this season. That will go a long way towards helping teams be seeded in the 1st qualifying rounds.

Latest rankings just in

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2007.html

**holidaysong** · 10/08/2006, 8:57 PM

2.0 and still more to come!

**holidaysong** · 10/08/2006, 9:00 PM

Were Shelbourne seeded in the Intertoto this year due to their extra club point they picked up against Lille?

**higgins** · 10/08/2006, 9:05 PM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

Were Shelbourne seeded in the Intertoto this year due to their extra club point they picked up against Lille?

Shels were NOT seeded this season in the Intertoto.

Anyway the intertoto uses the country coefficient and not the team coefficient so the draw with Lille wouldnt count anyway.

**pineapple stu** · 10/08/2006, 9:05 PM

Originally Posted by pete

It may be difficult to gain much more in places this season but any eL club in europe next season will have at least 1.866 club ranking points compared with around 1.5 this season.

I don'tknow - Georgia and Macedonia just a win away, and double points for the First Round proper, which Derry are surely in now. That'd cement our CL seeding next year, though wouldn't affect the UEFA seeding as Lithuania are the lowest seeds in the Northern Section.

**higgins** · 10/08/2006, 9:07 PM

Originally Posted by pete

It may be difficult to gain much more in places this season but any eL club in europe next season will have at least 1.866 club ranking points compared with around 1.5 this season. That will go a long way towards helping teams be seeded in the 1st qualifying rounds.

Latest rankings just in

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2007.html

We will rise two places next week I am sure of it.

Between Derry and Drogheda we have to secure at least two draws or one win ???

and Im nearly certain the three teams left from countries above us will all lose.

Then we should have at least two more games to come anyway with Derry in the 1st Round proper

take a look at this

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...ccoef2007.html

**pineapple stu** · 10/08/2006, 9:09 PM

Gets sweet when you look ahead to the 2009 seedings - 24th.

30th in 2008 - just two years away. Just three places away - roughly - from a bye to CL round 2.

**ger121** · 10/08/2006, 9:09 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

6 points divided by 3, so it's 2.0.

I stand corrected. Was adding the .333 to the 1.866

**DmanDmythDledge** · 10/08/2006, 9:13 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I don't know - Georgia and Macedonia just a win away, and double points for the First Round proper, which Derry are surely in now. That'd cement our CL seeding next year, though wouldn't affect the UEFA seeding as Lithuania are the lowest seeds in the Northern Section.

I'd say we will overtake Lithuania next year.

**higgins** · 10/08/2006, 9:14 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I don'tknow - Georgia and Macedonia just a win away, and double points for the First Round proper, which Derry are surely in now. That'd cement our CL seeding next year, though wouldn't affect the UEFA seeding as Lithuania are the lowest seeds in the Northern Section.

There were 13 countries in the Northern section.
We are ranked 7th of those 13...

Without looking at the Fair Play spots that means we should receive a place at least. Vaduz are also thrown in there to even things up when needs be and we are ahead of them too (thank f**K

)

Also IF we got two wins next week, which is possible, we are then only 1 win away from Lithuania

as its 2 points / 3 in the 1st Round proper

**Poor Student** · 10/08/2006, 10:36 PM

Ratbotniki of Macedonia are going into the UEFA 1st round proper so Macedonia still have potential to earn further points. Lithuania will only lose a bad 0.833 next season so they'll be harder to catch than Macedonia and Georgia who will lose 1.166 and 1.333 respectively. Bosnia might actually be catchable next year as they will lose 3 points from 02/03 which is double their next lowest. I'd hold our horses on projected estimations. We can't assume we're just going to keep winning the first round. Seedings fluctuate as favourites get toppled.

**higgins** · 11/08/2006, 12:18 AM

We will have caught Georgia and Macedonia by the end of this season. 1 win from next weeks two games will be enough for us to jump them.

Then at the very least we will have Derry in the first round proper too so its 50/50 as to who of Ireland and Macedonia get the easier draw.

If we do somehow manage to get that easy draw with nearly have a chance of catching Lithuania. If not this season it will happen next season.

Shels are going to be seeded regardless of the Champions League or UEFA Cup, lets assume we get there. Derry have a huge chance now to get their team coefficient off the mark and join Shels.

Things are eventually coming together after all the posts from 2 or 3 years ago

Great night for the league, AGAIN!!

**swinfordfc** · 11/08/2006, 7:04 AM

Great night for Irish football, i hope Drogheda can turn the tie around in two weeks and Derry finish the job with another win, it would be great to have 2 teams in first round proper and double points to play for

**Gareth** · 11/08/2006, 8:33 AM

Drogs need huge support from Minute 0 to the end. Make sure Dalyer is as mental as the Brandywell will be!!

**Kingdom** · 11/08/2006, 8:44 AM

Were Gretna the seeded team for this tie? If so will Derry now be seeded in the 1st round proper or how will that work?

**EnDai** · 11/08/2006, 10:03 AM

Derry use Gretna's coefficient now (well, will, provided nothing disasterous happens!), but will still be unseeded in the first round proper, as Gretna would also be.

**pete** · 11/08/2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by EnDai

Derry use Gretna's coefficient now (well, will, provided nothing disasterous happens!), but will still be unseeded in the first round proper, as Gretna would also be.

In the Uefa Cup teams do not inherit the ranking points of teams they beat. Makes no difference anyway as you say as Gretna would be unseeded anyway.

**EnDai** · 11/08/2006, 10:29 AM

Ah right, apologies for the misinfo. Coefficient of 2.000 this year, with 2 games (at home) to go, and most likely another 2 for Derry (and hopefully for Drogs too!). Feckin' hell, what a season!

**higgins** · 11/08/2006, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by pete

In the Uefa Cup teams do not inherit the ranking points of teams they beat. Makes no difference anyway as you say as Gretna would be unseeded anyway.

The UEFA CUp is no different to the Champions League in terms of who gets whos seeding!!!!

How many times lads

You do not get the seeding of the team you beat!!!!!

Only situation this occurs is when UEFA hold a draw before the outcome of a match is known. For the purpose of the draw they use the higher seed as winner. Sometimes it turns out that the higher seed does not win so then it appears as if you got their seed

The UEFA Cup Round 1 draw takes place 1 day after the 2nd leg so there is no need to use the higher seed.

**sullanefc** · 11/08/2006, 6:32 PM

Is there anywhere online where you can see a table of country rankings and how many places in europe each postition gets you. I looked at Bert Kassies' site but I can't find one.

Something like this

Country - CL - UEFA - IT
1. SPA ---4 ---- 3 --- 1
2. ITA ---4 ----- 3 ---1
3. ENG ---4 ---- 3 --- 1
...
etc