a win for cork tonight. What does that mean for the EL co-efficient ?
Link.
Belarus lost (we were level with them). The three countries above us, and six of the eight above us (excluding Liechtenstein, who don't enter the CL and aren't in our UEFA Cup section) all won though. So it was a good win, if only from the point of view of staying still.
we really need the other 2 EL clubs to get wins as well.
We need to catch the teams in the Northern Section,
so that Iceland and Belarus.
If we got ahead of them we would get seeded in the UEFA Cup.
and as Shels have a higher Team Coefficient they would be be seeded in the Champions League anyway
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Does points gained in the preliminary rounds of the Champions lge and UEFA Cups go towards clubs individual co-efficient?
Originally Posted by brandy86
Yes but tbh its the only place they matter, after the prelims co effs dont matter.
kdjac
Ok fair enough but this was confusing me. Its from this site http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/index.html but i see points have been added to the Team Coefficients on the same site.
UEFA Team Ranking
The UEFA team coefficients are calculated as the sum of the number of points of each individual team, and 33% of the country coefficient. Before 2004 the contribution of the country coefficient was 50%. See the team coefficients of 2006 for an example of such a calculation. For the calculation of the individual points of the team coefficients games played in qualifying rounds are not taken into account.
The UEFA team ranking is computed by the sum of 5 coefficients in the last 5 years. See the team ranking of 2006 for an example of such a ranking list. In this list the yellow lines with country information indicate the lowest possible value for a team of that country (even if that team didn't play any game in the last five years). The most recent team ranking is used for seeding of clubs for draws in the Champions League and the UEFA Cup.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...tcoef2007.html
This page kinda shows how it works as it only shows those in UEFA this season.
That is odd as its the only way a club of umm our stature could get a higher cooeficent unless it not taken into account for this season as its already started.
kdjac
Last edited by kdjaC; 12/07/2006 at 11:37 PM.
Jeez, Bert really keeps that site up-to-date!
does anyone think we can get the 1.833 again this season ??? the clubs arent really firing on all cylinders TBH.
since most of our games will be against "northern group" opposition, and UEFA Cup group qualification is the most plausible of european break-throughs at the moment, we should concentrate on our "northern" opponents:
24 Denmark 3.250 4.200 1.500 3.500 0.000 12.450 3/ 3
26 Sweden 2.250 1.500 3.000 2.666 0.000 9.416 4/ 4
31 Latvia 1.166 0.833 3.166 1.333 0.333 6.831 3/ 3
32 Finland 0.333 1.666 1.666 2.333 0.333 6.331 3/ 3
34 Lithuania 0.833 0.833 2.500 1.333 0.000 5.499 3/ 3
37 Iceland 0.166 0.500 2.500 0.833 0.333 4.332 3/ 3
39 Ireland 0.166 0.333 1.333 1.833 0.333 3.998 3/ 3
43 Estonia 0.166 0.333 0.833 0.833 0.000 2.165 3/ 3
iceland definately look catch-able this year. lithuania and latvia are living off a season each of good progress with nothing real since then (thanks in part to cork city)
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Yes Ireland should be looking to catch Iceland and get 37 spot, thats should be the aim come on Derry and Drogheda
We're looking for at least 1 full point each year (2 more wins 'only'!) Do that every year & we would be probably ranked 30-35 - this would prety much guarantee seeding each year
Just out of interest, and completely hypothetically, if an EL side won the Champions League or UEFA Cup, would every EL team be seeded next year? Would they get to skip a qualifying round or anything?
Well Liverpool got 26 points the year they won it, and Arsenal got 27 points last year for making the final. They obviousley won more games of something. Anyway, that would lift Ireland up to about 7 or 8th. Just behind Holland.
No. Only points earned in rounds proper (i.e. not qualifying rounds) count towards club coefficients.
As Stu says above, your team coefficient does not rise with prelim points gained except that you get 33% of the Country coefficient and there in a round about way you go up
Also Iceland won away from home the other night so they wont be that catachable this season even with a 1.000+ score.
Iceland are useless !!
How they win is beyond me but we have to make some ground this season.
I predict it will be next season before we begin to rise into the seeded half but lets hope Im wrong.
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A Belarus side drew in Poland and the other are 2 up on a Romanian side.
Great draw for Drogheda tonight and derry still level at half time. Still it will be difficult to make anymore ground.
What would we have to do to automatically qualify for the second preliminary CL?
if we can average 1.833 for the next 4 seasons we will fly up but i cant see it happening.
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