Eircom League Co Efficient for 2006/2007

**Krstic** · 14/07/2006, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by dav_sfc

should investors not be falling over themselves to buy into the Irish league? My business head is left somewhere near Worzel Gummidge's good-looking head so bear with me.... but I'm thinking like this... ('thinking' used lightly)

Why would League of Ireland clubs doing well in Europe have anything to do with potential investment in a League that doesn't even take European competition seriously

**higgins** · 14/07/2006, 1:03 PM

The opposition there would still be stiffer than what we would have faced in the CL 3rd round but the points awarded are the same. So are we not better off in the 3rd round (i.e. lower than 25th!) in order to keep getting our 2 (easy?!) points a year?

Whats the point in trying to get points if you dont want to move up the list? It defeats the purpose in the first place

I know you put a very valid argument across but the aim of the game is to rise up through the rankings.

You will get a yoyo effect where some seasons we are straight into 2nd QR and others we are back down as a seeded side and pick up decent points allowing us to get back up to the 2QR.

You dont have to stick there as soon as you go up and we probably wont but your talking about the CL here and its one team.

We will hopefully have two seeded sides in the UEFA Cup picking up points while our CL team is having a bash as the 2nd QR. Facing a winner from the 1st QR is not all that bad. You could nearly say Cork are doing this already as they are playing the seeded team who should win through, in theory.
Imagine this was the 2nd QR and Cork were facing these guys!!! It would only be a matter of time before we got a favourable draw in the 3rd Round and fluked our way into the CL proper.

**dav_sfc** · 17/07/2006, 6:16 AM

Of course i want to see us climb the rankings and I really hope we are able for it when the time comes!
I just don't want to see the league stand still, quality-wise, while we climb the rankings and then not be able to pick up any points in the 2nd QR.

I think i went over the top when I was over-estimating the cost of failure at that stage. To 'yo-yo' a bit around the 25 rank would not be too bad i guess. And, as you said, we really should be looking for success soon in the uefa cup proper! And i mean soon as in COMMON DERRY AND DROGS!

Since seeing Shels draw with Depor at 'home' I really believe a fluke could be on the cards! And the 3-0 away did not reflect that game well and we could have scored over there!
Even a fluke into the Uefa group stages would be incredible and not that far away!

**dav_sfc** · 17/07/2006, 6:29 AM

Why would League of Ireland clubs doing well in Europe have anything to do with potential investment in a League that doesn't even take European competition seriously

Well i really hope the league is taking Europe seriously and by having a summer league and postponing matches (Cork vs Bray, i think) so that proper preparations and rest can be had says we have.

The results are starting to come now too (can i have a pop at Longford here? no.. i better not.)

And obviously success in Europe would give investors the return they are looking for. Chelsea were bought the year they got champions league football! (not that that was for return on investment! but at least a CL team is a fun toy!)

**Krstic** · 17/07/2006, 8:09 AM

Originally Posted by dav_sfc

Well i really hope the league is taking Europe seriously

Aah you missed my point dav_sfc.

The Eircom League teams take European football seriously. It's the Irish League,as you put it, who have not taken it seriously.

Surley as an Irish football fan you know the difference between the 2 leagues.

**bigmac** · 17/07/2006, 9:53 AM

Originally Posted by Krstic

Aah you missed my point dav_sfc.

The Eircom League teams take European football seriously. It's the Irish League,as you put it, who have not taken it seriously.

Surley as an Irish football fan you know the difference between the 2 leagues.

In fairness, he said "Irish league". The lack of capitals in league means he was talking about a league which is Irish - not necessarily the "Irish League" which is the complete title of our friends north of the border.

**swinfordfc** · 19/07/2006, 7:04 AM

Tonight the night Big game for Cork can they get something?

**paudie** · 19/07/2006, 8:03 AM

Will the entry of a Montenegrin team in the CL for 2007/08 (presumably with zero coefficient) make it more likely that our league winners will be seeded next year?

**paudie** · 19/07/2006, 8:05 AM

Originally Posted by swinfordfc

Tonight the night Big game for Cork can they get something?

Having seen last weeks game I would be cautiously optomistic.

Apollon aren't fully fit and looked very tired in the second half. The heat/humidity will affect them to some extent as well since they aren't playing regularly.

Their No 9 looked handy but if we play a good possession game we could get the draw or win we need.

**Poor Student** · 19/07/2006, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by paudie

Will the entry of a Montenegrin team in the CL for 2007/08 (presumably with zero coefficient) make it more likely that our league winners will be seeded next year?

It might. Then again, our seeded team could draw the Montenegrin champions and they could possible be stronger than you'd think.

**monkey magic** · 19/07/2006, 2:11 PM

has the inauguration of the montenegran republic or whatever its gonna be called resulted in the establishment of a "montenegro fa" if this hasent happened, then were gettin a bit ahead of ourselves as it might be a year or so off...

**Poor Student** · 19/07/2006, 2:13 PM

There will be seperate leagues this season. Serbia have taken S&M's co-efficient points and their place in the European Championship qualifiers. So I think Montenegrin sides will start appearing in Europe next season.

**monkey magic** · 19/07/2006, 2:27 PM

ah, cheers for that.
bit off topic here, but does that mean that montenegro wont have the opportunity to field a team in the euro qualifiers this time round?

**paudie** · 19/07/2006, 2:38 PM

Originally Posted by monkey magic

ah, cheers for that.
bit off topic here, but does that mean that montenegro wont have the opportunity to field a team in the euro qualifiers this time round?

I think Serbia are going into the group that S&M were drawn in. (Javier Clemente is their new coach)

I think Montenegro agreed as they need to set up their FA structures and will play friendlies until the next World Cup qualifiers.

**thejollyrodger** · 19/07/2006, 9:22 PM

it should have been a win tonight. George the failure has cost us Co-efficent points.

**nshoop** · 19/07/2006, 9:26 PM

Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

it should have been a win tonight. George the failure has cost us Co-efficent points.

They easily could have had more goals at the end,how much of a difference would it have made on the points front?

**dancinpants** · 19/07/2006, 9:28 PM

Originally Posted by nshoop

They easily could have had more goals at the end,how much of a difference would it have made on the points front?

.5 divided by 3? 0.166 added to our tally?

**nshoop** · 19/07/2006, 9:28 PM

thanks

Red&White · 19/07/2006, 9:31 PM

Originally Posted by dancinpants

.5 divided by 3? 0.166 added to our tally?

It's got to something when I'm watching football, see a possible Cork chance, and immediately think, "Co-efficients!"

**OneRedArmy** · 19/07/2006, 9:32 PM

Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

does anyone think we can get the 1.833 again this season ??? the clubs arent really firing on all cylinders TBH.

You`re either a fool or a poor wind up merchant. There`s only one club out of Europe so far (hint:its your lot) & the other 3 have at least equalled if not surpassed most people`s expectations already.