Eircom League Co Efficient for 2006/2007

**pineapple stu** · 15/09/2006, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by cavan_fan

Thanks bigmac. It appears that the real problem would be if we did rise 'too' fast as we could have a few barren years.

Rising too fast hasn't got much to do with it - more like rising to a certain level. I think there's a stage where two or three clubs come straight into CL2 but aren't seeded - that'd be trouble. But it's better to risk being eliminated at that stage against a better team in front of a bigger crowd with more TV money than risk losing to a First Round non-seeded team with no TV and an average crowd.

**bigmac** · 15/09/2006, 1:02 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Rising too fast hasn't got much to do with it - more like rising to a certain level. I think there's a stage where two or three clubs come straight into CL2 but aren't seeded - that'd be trouble. But it's better to risk being eliminated at that stage against a better team in front of a bigger crowd with more TV money than risk losing to a First Round non-seeded team with no TV and an average crowd.

Good point Stu - anyway, if there was one year where it was "barren" - we'd be back in more comfortable territory as a result the next year - hence I'll add a seesaw to my swings and roundabout and extend the playground analogy. Hopefully there won't be a slide at any stage.

**higgins** · 15/09/2006, 3:26 PM

Derry's 1 point last night is great news.

Shels and Derry are now seeded next season and if Derry do the impossible we will have all thre sides seeded which would be something else!

Getting yourself seeded and moving up the charts is what its all about. I mean look at Newcastle this season!! They couldnt have faced easier opposition in the Intertoto or UEFA Cup if they picked the teams themselves.

Once we are seeded and get that bit of luck we can start to make real progress in Europe.

We are still ranked 12th in the overall seeding for this season alone!! No doubt we will slide down a little but we are still looking at somewhere around 20... If we kept that up over a few seasons we'd be looking at extra places and bye's.

It's been a great year and finally we are seeing the end of the bad years coefficients.

**thejollyrodger** · 15/09/2006, 6:38 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Sorry to burst your bubble JR, but as you say, away teams go for a draw. & I`ll settle for that in Paris.

I`m not even goinq to broach how away teams can go for a win at home, as the physics of it is beyond me.

A tear in the space-time continuum perhaps?

What i meant was.... most teams who play in Europe (from the continent)go for a draw away from home and aim to win the home tie.

**pete** · 15/09/2006, 6:46 PM

I think soem people are too obsessed with CL groups stages. Progress in europe is just that progress. Hopefully we close to ensuring all eL teams seeded in the 1st qualifying round which means some easy draws available. The more experience in europe the more players improve.

I think this year has been a big step up as all 3 teams have participated to the coefficients. The more often an eL side gets to the Cl 3rd qualifying round or the Urefa Cup 1st round the more likely one of them will make the breakthrough.

**thejollyrodger** · 16/09/2006, 4:29 PM

Originally Posted by pete

The more often an eL side gets to the Cl 3rd qualifying round or the Urefa Cup 1st round the more likely one of them will make the breakthrough.

Good work Pete

**BohsFans** · 25/09/2006, 11:28 AM

Good article about the Irish co-efficient on rte.ie

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0925/uefacoefficient.html

**pineapple stu** · 25/09/2006, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

I dont think that was Newport County Stu, it was Merthyr tydfil and dont think it was the quarters either and also think it was the late 80's.

Lost my quote, and I'm not going to bother looking back for it, but here's Newport County advancing to the quarter-finals of the 1980/81 Cup Winners' Cup and narrowly losing (3-2) to Carl Zeiss Jena of West Germany.

Merthyr Tydfil, however, did lose to Atalanta after beating them 2-1 in the home leg in 1987.

**gspain** · 25/09/2006, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

Good article about the Irish co-efficient on rte.ie

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0925/uefacoefficient.html

OK own up who hacked the RTE site and got a mention of domestic football on it?

**swinfordfc** · 28/09/2006, 3:54 PM

Great season for LOI but can Derry further progress it by getting something out of this game? i hope so but just think they fall short.

**BohsFans** · 03/10/2006, 6:19 PM

Mark O'Shaughnessy-Cummings-Bono from http://www.rte.ie/aertel/p231.htm

Surely wrong?

The criteria used to reach our co-
efficient of 2.833 is quite complicated
but the upshot is that this season's
champions will be seeded for the
Champions League qualifiers, while, if
it's Derry or Shels, they could go
straight into the second qualifying
round.

**Schumi** · 03/10/2006, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

Surely wrong?

Yes (what a shock!). The country coefficient decides what round teams enter at.

**pete** · 03/10/2006, 7:16 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Yes (what a shock!). The country coefficient decides what round teams enter at.

That Cummins fella would want to stick to rating the music at games & leave the coefficients to others more informed.

**bigmac** · 03/10/2006, 8:46 PM

Posted this in thread on Emmet Malone's article in the IT but then figured it might be better suited in here

This page gives the ranking based on just this year and includes the teams that are still involved in Europe from each country - i.e. those with the possibility of gaining more points. We're currently 17th with only 6 countries below us still involved. Scotland, Greece and Israel would be expected to get results and pass us out as all have multiple teams in group stages.
However, there's a good chance that Austria (Austria Wien - need to score 7 points!), Serbia (Partizan Belgrade - need to get 4 points) and Poland (Wisla Krakow - need to get 3 points) might not get enough to get past which would put Ireland into the top 20 this year. Either way, at worst we'll be ranked 23rd - putting us above both Norway and Sweden.