Zidane sending off...

[osarusan]

I would find it really sad if any true football fan ever believed there could be some circumstance where headbutting an opponent on the field of play would ever be justified.

could you please tell us which forum and thread this quote is from.........I'd hate to think there was some selective editing..............

[thejollyrodger]

any videos of him with the headbutt ??

[Superhoops]

could you please tell us which forum and thread this quote is from.........I'd hate to think there was some selective editing..............

From this forum and this thread. Full post below. Don't think can be construed as selective editing. My reading (and I may be wrong!) is that Jebus is advocating that if Materazzi made an ethnic slur to Zidane then the headbutt was fully justified! Have I misread or misunderstood?

Surprised that some on here have agreed with the over-reaction greeting Zidane's sending off. Not that he shouldn't have been. but the tabloids and the BBC saying that this has spoiled everything Zidane has done in his career is a bit much. Has anything Maradona ever done overshadowed his career? Remember in 94 when people were saying all he'd be remembered for was his drugs shame, yet here we are 12 years later and no-one even mentions it anymore. Loved the hypocritical BBC saying that a violent act always deserves a straight red, just a week after crying their eyes out at Rooney being sent off for just such a thing, absolute muppets.

On a personal note I think that at some stage what players are justified in saying to their fellow professionals will have to be reviewed. If the Notorious CHEAT that is a Materazzi did make an ethnic slur to Zidane than I feel the neadbutt was fully justified, hopefully we'll find out someday what was really said. Where's that Man Utd fan that could lip read Finnan mouthing off to Neville when you need him?

[shakermaker1982]

It was an act of madness from Zidane but he has to live with the consequences so I'm not gonna slag the man off. I feel sorry for the man if I'm honest, I just wish he could turn back the clock and walk away from the incident. Materazzi obviously said something to him and got the reaction he wanted.......thank God he didn't nut him in the head or else we'd have a Duncan Fergusson story on our hands i.e. jail.

[osarusan]

From this forum and this thread. Full post below. Don't think can be construed as selective editing. My reading (and I may be wrong!) is that Jebus is advocating that if Materazzi made an ethnic slur to Zidane then the headbutt was fully justified! Have I misread or misunderstood?

Cheers for that............no selective editing, just good highlighting of a foolish post.

Well well well, a Limerick fan and Shamrock Rovers fan agreeing........whats next??!!

[Superhoops]

Cheers for that............no selective editing, just good highlighting of a foolish post.

Well well well, a Limerick fan and Shamrock Rovers fan agreeing........whats next??!!

Who is the Shamrock Rovers fan?

[osarusan]

Who is the Shamrock Rovers fan?

Clearly nobody.........apologies.

[Jerry The Saint]

Just a thought............he is about to have a book published....maybe his publisher had suggested an " outragous final act" to launch the sales into orbit!!...........or am I just a huge cynic??

I didn't know Dunphy was the ghostwriter!

[Over the post]

It really was an inexcusable act.

But much more worrying was how he was red-carded.
FIFA have made it plain that they are not prepared to use action replays during a game.
It is almost certain that the 4th official watched a replay of the incident and then informed the ref.
Now if thats the facts, then why didnt he also watch the replay of the penalty that wasnt given in the second half.
If he did watch it and the peno given and scored it probably wouldnt had gone to extra-time and the Zidane incident would never had happened.

I must stress here I am not condoning the actions of Zidane but I'm questioning the actions of the 4th official and ref.
If FIFA have decided NOT to use action replays then why did the official do so?

The fourth official, the Spaniard Medina Cantalejo, has been quoted in the Spanish press as saying he saw the incident on the spot and didn't see any replay. He told the linesman it was a red card and the linesman informed the ref.
Meanwhile, a team of expert lip readers on Brazilian TV claims Materazzi called Zidane's sister a prostitute just before the head-butt.
Zidane hadn't had a good game, he'd taken a bang on his dodgy shoulder and was probably in a lot of pain and just lost the rag.
A terrible way to end, true enough, but any true football fan is going to remember a hundred other moments before this one.

[tricky_colour]

A moment of madness?
I am sure his forth coming book will sell by the shed load.
Best timed header of the tournement in my opinion

[el punter]

I am sure his forth coming book will sell by the shed load.

Yep, a flawed genius is far more interesting than a run-of-the-mill genius

[tribesman78]

Zidane tackle was bad but people have to cop on a bit, Every great player has moments of madness and people are just jumping on his back it been his last game. Rooney's tackle was 10 times worse... I know if i was on the receiving end i would perfer zidanes anyday. And lets not forget a mister Roy Keane vs Alf Inge Haaland yet majority of people never seem to bring this up when mentioning him. Also Maradonna was no angel I remember him been involved in a mass brawl during a match when with Barcelona and he done a Cantona style kick into a players chest and levelled another 2 players i think with punches.

[Plastic Paddy]

Zidane tackle was bad but people have to cop on a bit, Every great player has moments of madness and people are just jumping on his back it been his last game. Rooney's tackle was 10 times worse... I know if i was on the receiving end i would perfer zidanes anyday.

Rooney's "tackle" was 10 times worse? And you'd prefer Zidane's "challenge"? Stay off the drugs. They're affecting your vision and God knows what else too.

any videos of him with the headbutt ??

No, but you too can relive the fateful moment...

http://tonaz.altervista.org/zidane.html

See how many Marcos you can fell.

PP

[ken foree]

Rooney's "tackle" was 10 times worse? And you'd prefer Zidane's "challenge"? Stay off the drugs. They're affecting your vision and God knows what else too.

ehh well can i have some of what you're smoking coz i'd much prefer a medium strength headbutt to the chest than a stamp on the criggies. unless i'm not getting your tackle vs. challenge wordgame analysis.

[lopez]

...Some of the pompous hand wringing going on here would put Garth Crooks to shame. I suppose you either like watchin football the way it should be played or you just are a moany oul **** with deep personal anger issues that you project on to insignificant events in order to avoid having to confront the gaping hole of nothingness that is your life. I like Zidane myself.

It's called a football forum where we discuss, erm, football. And it has to be said you're as sad as the rest of us.

...If the Notorious CHEAT that is a Materazzi did make an ethnic slur to Zidane than I feel the neadbutt was fully justified...

Jebus. Thank f*ck the Celtic tiger came before you reached working age. I doubt you'd have lasted a minute as someone Irish in Britain with that attitude.

ehh well can i have some of what you're smoking coz i'd much prefer a medium strength headbutt to the chest than a stamp on the criggies. unless i'm not getting your tackle vs. challenge wordgame analysis.

Chest too. I don't like my huevos scrambled either.

Latest on Zid Viscious (copyright The Scum) by an Italian lipreader on tonight's BBC News is that while he couldn't see what Zidane said, Materazzi said in the following order: 'No...calm down!...liar!...a terrible death on your family (perhaps the spark seeing that Zidane found out his mother was ill) ...'Go f*ck yourself!'

[tricky_colour]

In a way it was typical of Zidane, your average thug would have gone for a nosebreaker, Zidane tried something a bit different, don't think I have ever seen a headbutt to the chest before, it was executed very well too, well disguised and timed to perfection, resulting in Materazzi collasping in a heap.
A lot of other players would have missed
Whatever the reason for it I am sure it was well enough deserved, Materazzi was doing some sneaky holding of Zidane monents earlier, the kind of 'low level' cheating that spoils the game (diving, feighing injury etc...).
I really can't understand what all the fuss is about. As far as I am concerned he well deserved player of the tournement, a pleasure to watch. He didn't even (appear) try to hide it either, yet somehow the only people who didn't see it were the three officials!!
I will always remember his as one of the most graceful players to play the game.

[Plastic Paddy]

ehh well can i have some of what you're smoking coz i'd much prefer a medium strength headbutt to the chest than a stamp on the criggies.

Medium-strength headbutt? I don't think so. That was deliberately placed and, had it been a few inches lower, could have easily collapsed Materazzi's diaphragm with catastrophic results. So a kick in the balls has got to be preferable to potential death, no?

unless i'm not getting your tackle vs. challenge wordgame analysis.

OP called Rooney's stamp a "tackle". I'm sure you'll agree that it was nothing of the sort, hence the quotation marks.

PP

[Marked Man]

Medium-strength headbutt? I don't think so. That was deliberately placed and, had it been a few inches lower, could have easily collapsed Materazzi's diaphragm with catastrophic results. So a kick in the balls has got to be preferable to potential death, no?

PP

And if, unknown to Zidane, someone had planted a nuclear warhead in Materazzi's shirt, it could have meant death for us all.

Won't somebody please think of the children?

[Sandro]

Don't know what Materazzi told Zidane and I couldn't care less, whatever he said it's probably what player say each other every 10 seconds on the pitch all over the world.

Here you can play Zidane vs Materazzi again

[Marked Man]

From today's Independent (UK):

In Italy they have another explanation. In Italy, Internazionale are mocked as an overspending, poorly run side doomed to failure. The joke is that Materazzi's provocation was simple: he just asked Zidane if he fancied playing for Internazionale.