Zidane sending off...

**jockser** · 09/07/2006, 11:39 PM

What about Zindanes penalty!!?? Fcuking class and balls of steal to do that

Legend!

**Marked Man** · 09/07/2006, 11:46 PM

Zidane will be remembered solely for that just like Maradona is remembered solely for the hand of god goal.

**joema** · 09/07/2006, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Marked Man

Zidane will be remembered solely for that just like Maradona is remembered solely for the hand of god goal.

Maybe you should replace the word "solely" with "principally" ?

**DmanDmythDledge** · 09/07/2006, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Marked Man

Zidane will be remembered solely for that just like Maradona is remembered solely for the hand of god goal.

Maradona is remembered more for his other goal against England(best WC goal of all time imo) and for winning the '86 WC for Argentina by carrying a mediocre team through the tournament.

What you remember Zidane for is really a 'do you think the glass is half empty/half full?' sort of question. Real football fans will remember his sparkling genius, while others are always ready to have a go at someone, point the finger, will look at the negative aspect.

**dfx-** · 10/07/2006, 12:26 AM

Zidane deserved to be sent off, Italy won. I don't really see how anyone can link the two together. I don't think he had anything to do with Trezeguet's miss which is what actually sent France out. As with pineapple stu, there was little going to happen in those last 10 minutes. There was nothing to show there was going to be, you can't say Zidane ruined his country's chances and let *so many* people down.

I think there is an underlying petulant streak in him and it happened tonight, it's sad to see, but as for the hyperbol� as him being tarnished forever is equally as sad, disappointing, predictable and yet not very surprising. His moments of genius should prevail.

**Soko** · 10/07/2006, 12:32 AM

Joema - stop talking out your hole or else start using some of that memory bank I presume you have. Zidane committed a disgraceful headbutt but to wipe away his previous WC, EC, Serie A, La Liga and European Cups for it is just retarded.

As for deciding the game, I wouldn't have layed any money for the draw. Yes anything can happen but odds were that it was heading to penalties any way and Zidane would have maybe taken one of the scorers kicks. I dont think it factored an awful lot into the result, just peoples perceptions of him.

**The Stars** · 10/07/2006, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by joema

What are you on about? It worked out well for Materazzi - Zidane was sent off, Materazzi played on, scored a penalty and is now a World Champion!!!!

Totally agree with Superhoops - what Zidane did overshadows everything good he did on a football pitch before. He will always be rembered for this - just unbelievable - total muppet

If you watch Materazzi he fouls so much and never gets anything in return but a tap on the ankles now and again.Zidane just lost it with him and gave a head butt for everyone that Materazzi had kicked or whatever.
It was madness considering the ocassion and the fact it was say by millions of people.
Zidane was the only one on the French team that was a danger in the second half for France.He wanted this so much,which could be seen by the fact that he came back on after he went off with the shoulder injury and although in pain,continued.

Anyone who remembers him solely for this incident has the memory of a gold fish.He has been arguebly the greatest player of his generation,and will be remembered for his footballing genius.

**Marked Man** · 10/07/2006, 1:09 AM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Maradona is remembered more for his other goal against England(best WC goal of all time imo) and for winning the '86 WC for Argentina by carrying a mediocre team through the tournament.

What you remember Zidane for is really a 'do you think the glass is half empty/half full?' sort of question. Real football fans will remember his sparkling genius, while others are always ready to have a go at someone, point the finger, will look at the negative aspect.

I suppose I should have used smiley faces...

**Flea** · 10/07/2006, 1:13 AM

Originally Posted by joema

Moment of madness? - you cant use that as an excuse - this is the World Cup Final - the biggest stage of all, he is supposed to be a hero and a legend of the game aswell as a person to look up to. Just look at the amount of young people in France who wear his name on the back of their shirts and just think of the supporter who payed 500euro to see the match - he is a total disgrace and imo has completley tarnished his career. Imo it doesnt matter what the Italian said what he did can't be excused

This post would win best barstooler post if there was such a competition. Yes it was a moment of madness, it was hardly a calculated act he practiced and thought about before the game. It doesnt excuse it, but was spur of the moment madness. He is human after all and is renown for his bad temper. He has a history of lashing out, but in 98 it was in the group stages (a stamp on a saudi player). He is and always will be a legend of the game. I will always look up to him and other tragic football heroes for their football abilities, Best, Zidane, Maradonna, Garincha. At least he isnt like Pele, selling his national league down the toilet. In a way, It is somewhat comforting to know that even the greats, have faults.Zidane messed up, so what? Im sure he doesnt need anyone to tell him hes messed up right now. Nodoby can condone it but can in time forget it.

The comment about the "oh what about the young people watching" is hilarious. I cant help but see this line finding its way into Ned Flanders' script in some new Simpsons episode in the near future. Such incidents happen in every sport particularly our own games, and rugby. Its part of the game, and always will be. If its any consolation, I think it was past the watershed anyways, with the extra time and all. And as for the nobodys paying 500e.Well I can assure you, a player of Zidanes stature doesnt give a monkeys about joe soap losing a bit of cash. Im sure anyone who was at the final certainly was not from the background that Zizou was raised in France.

Of course it matters what Materazzi said to Zidane. Materazzi is well known for unprofessional antics as well. The whole French team, in particular, have been subjected to terrible racism back in France. If Materazzi said a racist comment, then it is easier to understand why Zidane reacted unprofessionally, like any hot tempered red blooded man would have. Who knows, Zidane could soon be endorsing "lets stamp racism out of football", literally. I cant wait to hear more about the incident, as I say, if it was racist, I for one would have probably said or done something as well.

Zidane is a football legend. The best of the last twenty years. He certainly went out with a bang.. He will be remembered for the 98 genius and 2006 mistake. Any real football fan will be able to look beyond the narrow mindedness of this one incident and acknowledge all his career points(ups and downs) collectively. Period.

**Risteard** · 10/07/2006, 2:22 AM

Think i'll remember Zidane a lot more for his two goals in '98 and Hampden Park than for the incident. France may have lost anyway tonight but wouldn't be far-fetched to say he ensured it, being their best peno-taker and all.
Shame.

**ken foree** · 10/07/2006, 3:40 AM

Originally Posted by Marked Man

I suppose I should have used smiley faces...

verily the clock keys are whirring

**onenilgameover** · 10/07/2006, 4:14 AM

thinkin on it.....I don't reckon zidane was right going into that game...i reckon all the in-fighting and cliques and sh!t might have got to him. I think he knew France were poor in the qualifiers and poor in the group stages...he changed everything for them and dragged them to the final...practically managing the team...i think he knew that wasnt right...when roles are reversed it aint cool...i think in that spilt second with a alleged racial slur triggering him he thought this is all balls. I'm outta here. Football is a dirty game today and needs serious changes to regain its glory. Italian scandal...diving ridden games...Zidane as a player and as a man everyone looked up to. He for the most part was above the cr@p. This is a deep thinking man who loved lego for gods sake!. a great man. i hope this crazy act will in someone way make people realize racisim if thats what it was is alive and well in football and wont be put away by a few phony speeches before a couple of matches. I will not remember zidane for the act but for the thousands of other acts that made me smile and love this game.

**Forever Dreamin** · 10/07/2006, 6:14 AM

can anyone actually clarify is the 4th official allow intervene on the basis of tv replays on his montior? accoridng to the BBC he can not ( and that is my understanding) but according to RTE panel he can.

also i would love to know what was said to Zidane and will Matterrazi be charged with anything...from the tv it appeared he definitle said something which must have been highly insulting to have got Zidane to react and if so IMO Matterazi should face a 3 match ban as well.

**el punter** · 10/07/2006, 7:43 AM

Zidane will be remembered by me for scoring the most stunning goal to win a major final at Hampden Park with his outrageous volley against Levekusen.

I agree with the idea of Matterazi having a case to answer regarding ungentlemanly conduct.

**gspain** · 10/07/2006, 7:47 AM

Originally Posted by Forever Dreamin

can anyone actually clarify is the 4th official allow intervene on the basis of tv replays on his montior? accoridng to the BBC he can not ( and that is my understanding) but according to RTE panel he can.

also i would love to know what was said to Zidane and will Matterrazi be charged with anything...from the tv it appeared he definitle said something which must have been highly insulting to have got Zidane to react and if so IMO Matterazi should face a 3 match ban as well.

I think RTE got it wrong - it was the linesman I thought who intervened. Note the stadium monitors would not have shown the incident. Replays of anything even vaguely controversial were not shown in the stadium.

Sad end to a great career. He will be remembered for a lot more than the headbutt though.

**Stuttgart88** · 10/07/2006, 8:13 AM

Such a fine line between success & failure, total greatness & partial greatness etc.

Compare Zizou's penalty to Trezeguet's. Probably only an inch or two in the difference.

Also, if Zidane's header was only a foot or two wide of Buffon. I'd say this was playing on his mind. I'd say he was livid with himself for missing it & his mind got ****ed up as a result.

A shame, but he's still the most brilliant European footballer I've seen.

**nedder** · 10/07/2006, 8:49 AM

Originally Posted by gspain

I think RTE got it wrong - it was the linesman I thought who intervened. Note the stadium monitors would not have shown the incident. Replays of anything even vaguely controversial were not shown in the stadium.

Sad end to a great career. He will be remembered for a lot more than the headbutt though.

According to both Lippi and Domenech, a replay of the incident was seen by the fourth and fifth official (didn't know there was one) when the looked at a monitor on the sideline, and subsequently reported to assisant referee.
Surely this is a clear breach of FIFA's own rules?