Fair enough, hope Doyler can recapture the old magic.Originally Posted by Brayhead101
As for Robbie Doyle celebrations, who cares, was his first league goal this season, any player who hadn't scored in while would probably celebrate in a simular way, and if he was having taunt so what, We give players enough stick when we want so sometimes got to taste our own medicine, provided it was in good taste, common guys educated dudes like you shouldn't be getting upset so easily especially as you are no angels yourself
Lol, cheers.PS Nivea visage aftersoon might work wonders for you sunburn so the girlfriend says anywayMy left arm is still raw red!
UCD had the better of most of the game and will obviously feel very agrieved at not taking all 3 points, however in football its always the case that if you cant kill a team off with a second goal then they are always going to be in with a shout, and we got our goal. We did'nt play well but got something from the game , we've got to move on and up our performances.
True.
To be honest PS, I only thought it was the wind that affected Skippy's kicking because this season his kicking has been alot better then last and that was his worst kicking for a long time. Also I think a few Bray fans will take any chance to knock him down.
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Come off it SuperFrank ! his kicking is absolutely shocking, always has ben and aalways will be..... people only have a go at players when there not up to it and with the amount of goals his conceded over the last few seasons it's not a surprise that people have ago at him
Great report of the game on braywanderers.ie- tells it like it is, especially about Doyle and the defending.
Carlisle Grounds
09 July 2006
We had Patrick Kavanagh all right but little enough poetry at the Carlisle on a sunny Sunday afternoon that looked better than it played, with a gusty wind testing the players’ technique.
The name of Bray Wanderers game was frustration and they were on the way to a third successive one-nil defeat that Lady Bracknell might have judged more than misfortune when UCD’s Irish Under 21 international keeper gifted them a ninety minute equaliser by juggling Robbie Doyle’s free kick into his own goal.
By then the Seagulls were squawking at each other and the acquisition of an unexpected point won’t prevent the inquisition into what’s gone wrong.
But first things first. The home side were without the suspended Wesley Charles and the transferred Eamon Zayed. Zayed, fresh from scoring on his Drogheda debut, attended the game, Charles was not in evidence. Possibly irrelevant, it just seemed symbolic of the Bray camp just now.
Doyle moved from the flank to assume Zayed’s striking role with ulitily man Tresson crossing from left back to Doyle’s wide midfield berth. With both Philip Keogh and Ciaran Ryan left on the bench, the vacant full back slot went to Willie Tyrrell and the youngster took the opportunity with evident relish.
Things were not so harmonious elsewhere in Bray’s defence where central defender Brian McGovern seemed disinclined to trust his goalkeeper’s judgement. First he headed behind a cross O’Connor was set to claim and for which he had clearly called. Then the Seagulls skipper took the initiative for a dropping ball which seemed to be clearly the keeper’s responsibility; something he repeated in the second half when impeding O’Connor’s punch.
Little wonder the young Australian was snarling at McGovern by the end. As a member of the goalkeeper’s union you’d expect me to favour O’Connor’s case but I can’t see any game plan that benefits from withdrawing a defender deep to take free kicks that are clearly in the keeper’s territory.
The first half saw little action in either goalmouth, O’Connor being called upon twice, first to turn Derek Doyle’s drive round his right post and subsequently to save smartly at the other upright when Ala n Mahon’s throw produced a sharp pivot and strike from Salmon.
At the other end Doyle’s technique was not secure enough to lob the stranded Quigley and the only real excitement came in a claim for handball just before the half hour when Tresson’s through ball appeared to strike Shorthall’s arm inside the UCD box. The referee indicated that he was unsighted; his assistant could not have been but seemed unimpressed.
During injury time Robbie Doyle weaseled his way on to the byline and his low ball across the face of goal was hooked away by Mahon, who did not appear after the interval. The versatile Conor Kenna moved across to right back with Darragh Ryan filling in on the left.
The second half saw the Seagulls attacking the Quinnsborough Road end and Paul Caffrey firing just wide. Caffrey is impressive enough on the ball but disappears from the match far too often for someone manning the midfield engine room.
Colm James, resplendent in white boots, replaced the injured Fox on the hour but his first contribution was to lose possession on the edge of the area allowing Conor Salmon to bury the ball in the bottom left corner of O’Connor’s net.
The out of favour Keogh came on six minutes later, looking ready for action, and Wanderers switched to a five-two-three formation. It made little difference.
Robbie Doyle does a fair impression of action man but it’s mostly just sound and fury and the Seagulls need to move fast to replace Zayed if they hope to improve their lowly League position.
This is not the best UCD side of recent seasons but they should have won comfortably – and would have done but for Quigley’s last gasp donation.
Brian de Salvo
Do people not actually understand that Doyle and Zayed are 2 completely different type of players ? Zayed is a poacher, someone who will sit, do nothing and then pounch on any chance. Doyle on the other hand is a work-a-holic of a forward, he creates for others and does the job of a midfielder as well. Without strikers like Doyle the likes of Zayed, Jason Byrne, Glen Crowe etc would be a lot more ineffective.
De Savlo should know better than that in fairness, it's pretty much having a little dig at Doyle, and it on the offical and supporters sites. Very poor form for them to allow him to post it. Plus the fact that Doyle has virtually played right wing all season......... maybe a little more thought into what he writes 1st would help his reports
Doyle does a whole lot of running around to very little effect. He tears down the wing with the ball, winds up in the corner and that's it, brain explodes. Doyle is a forward who doesn't score goals. And as for David Tyrrell....
You seem to have selective memory. His kicking is alot better then it was last season and after one bad game everybody hops on him. He has been doing very well and in all honesty it actually isn't his fault that he concedes so many goals. The defence has been pathetic occasionally. I feel that alot of Skippy's criticism is unjustified and I know for certain that there are a few Bray fans that will back me up on this.
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You obviously don't know much about football so........Doyle does a whole lot of running around to very little effect. He tears down the wing with the ball, winds up in the corner and that's it, brain explodes. Doyle is a forward who doesn't score goals. And as for David Tyrrell....
He's one of the hardest working footballers in the bloody league, never mind Bray. But agreed he does'nt score enough goals (well this season anyway) but i'd put that down to the fact that he has only played up front for us 2/3 times i reckon and when he was playing there he was doing all of Zayed's off the ball work for him.
Hopefully the goal against UCD will spur him on and give him a bit more confidence to shoot and not try create a chance for someone else.
Last edited by BrayUnknowns; 14/07/2006 at 9:26 AM.
Do you even go to Bray games ? One bad game, yeah right, EVERY single game he plays he will misplace / slice / shank at least 4 or 5 kicks, if not more. I've nothing personal aginist him, jesus ive never even meet the guy ! I just don't think he's good enough for Bray, simple as that really. Last season he conceded over 50 goals, the worst record out of all 22 teams in the 2 leagues ! thats just not on, at i could say that at least 20/25 of these were his fault !
Yeah, I obviously don't know much about football. Hard working? Running around like a headless chicken doesn't count for much in my book. Since he's not scoring, maybe you could enlighten me as to the number of assists he's provided so? Ah, all those telling crosses, incisive passes?? How could the goal against UCD spur him on, it was a complete fluke! Read Brian De Salvo again- he knows football and he knows Doyle ain't doing the business.
Before trying to be smart, maybe think about it 1st.............
From the 10 goals we have scored from what i can remember he has had 2 in the Waterford (home) match, our most important game of the season so far, 1 in the Waterford away game (Peno which zayed scored), Won another peno away to St. Pats which Zayed missed (still can't understand why Zayed took it, Doyle was never going to miss against his old club !) and he set up Zayed opening goal of the season against Shels. So to answer your question, that 4 assists from our 10 league goals this season - just shy of 50% of all our assists, not to bad for a headless chicken, maybe McGuirk should try sign a few more of them.
Actualy i think he could have got the last touch on the cornor that was swung in for McGoverns goal in Tolka against Shels. Oh he also got a vital touch onto Fox in the cup game at home to Kildare in the 93rd minute as well
You have probably just proven my point again by saying the goal was a fluke, how can a shot that is struck very well with power and curl from 25/30ish yards, that is on target be a fluke ? it was bad goalkeeping, not a fluke. I actually felt sorry for Quigely because the ball moved about half a foot just before it got to him.
So assist wise he's doing more than his fair share for the team, but i do agree with you he should be scoring more but it's hard when your being played out of position. Now that he's back upfront he'll have a better chance, only problem is that he's been creating all our good chances, who's gonig to supply him ?
Last edited by BrayUnknowns; 14/07/2006 at 3:39 PM.
Now I reckon that a lot of the stick that Chris got on here last season was unwarranted and some of it fair. He has always been a great shot-stopper and I reckon that this season other areas of his game have been improving as well, such as his kicking for example. Felt terrible for the chap after the game in Longford because he had a good game and it was very harsh on him to concede late on. And now after the UCD game, from which mach Skippy got the Bray Man Of The Match award in the Bray People you want to have another pop at him
Last edited by Stevo Da Gull; 14/07/2006 at 6:40 PM.
Now here I totally agree with you
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