QuoteSo did I!
Also, the result was a joke.
An absolute joke in Bray...
Not the result. I got.....sun burned!
So did I!
Also, the result was a joke.
Thats a 1st !Originally Posted by pineapple stu
So did I!
Also, the result was a joke.
Result was probably fair IMO. Very very poor game, both sides were shocking. The only thing i would moan about if i was a ucd fan / player is the ref not sending off Mick Roche for his tackle in the 1st half on Hurley, absolutey shocking, and on the same note the only thing i could moan about is UCD's goal, the ucd man played collie james and not the man before slipping it though to Sammon to score. Delighted for Doyler to get his 1st league goal for us. Think the pressure we put on UCD for the last 15/20 minutes was good and deserved a goal.
In the first half Bray were woeful. I put it down to our wind advantage but in the second half we seemed to have no trouble getting forward against the wind. Bray had a decent spell towards the end of the game but I felt we deserved the win. But that's what you get for not putting the game beyond your opponents. Doyle was giving it loads after he scored. The first player in history to bother to taunt the UCD away support? Man, I'm actually quite ill after the game. Burns on arms, neck, face. The next time I go there you'll have a covered stand, thank God (though we'll probably be back to needed it to fend off the cutting arctic winds).
yeah we were woeful and the wind was shocking ! it did'nt help that we did'nt have a goal keeper who actually can't kick the ball, how can a footballer not be able to kick the a ball ? the difference was that Quigely could kick the ball..... I think the goal was UCD's 1st shot that actually hit the target and they had only 1 other good chance when the sub that came on for UCD (No. 14 ?) shot direct at O'Connor.
I highly doubt that Doyler intended to taunt the UCD fans, an absolutely massive weight off his shoulder, it's been a long tim coming, i think it was just sheer happiness on his part
Yeah, I always feel kicking is a strong point of Quigley's game. Skippy's kicks kept landing inside your half, put you under constant pressure. We had enough of the play to have put they game beyond Bray. The Bray goal was a c0ck up by Quigley but you can't fault Doyle for putting it on target. I swear to you, he came over to take the p1ss out of us. He had some psycho look in his eyes, cupped his ears and then did a little jig! It's a pity, he's a shadow of the player he was in his Belfield days. I still reckon he's the most entertaining player I ever watched in the blue.
Have to disagree (as do the Irish Times and eleven-a-side in their reports). UCD were the better of two not-very-great sides and did enough to warrant the three points. Unfortunately, though, games aren't decided on what you do enough to do, but on what you do.
Derek Doyle and Conor Sammon both forced good saves out of O'Connor in the first half; Sammon was tackled well in the box from a good position just before Kavanagh (no 14), Cawley (I think) was just over from inside his own half, Sammon caused the Bray defence problems all game and that's just what I can remember off the top of my head. Bray's shots were a Robbie Doyle shot on the turn and the goal, one of which was dealt with easily and the other should have been dealt with easily.
Definitely two points dropped from our point of view, and a free point for youz. But that's football...
[QUOTE=pineapple stu]Unfortunately, though, games aren't decided on what you do enough to do, but on what you do.
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Well thats what i would agree on ! same could be said for us away against Longford and at home to Drogheda last week. Felt we did enough to get something out of both games but football aint like that.....
Just thought on the 90 minutes both sides had spells, UCD were far better in the 1st half but Bray were better in the 2nd half, especially the last 20 when nearly all the play was in the UCD half.
On a note away from the match, UCD are always a team i've liked, the try and get the ball down and play real football, that with note a penny to spend on players. The Scolarship scheme is fantastic for them, without it UCD probably would have folded.
There was no choice but to keep the ball down playing into that wind.
UCD lost the points when we didn't score in the first half. The wind kept Bray from going forward and the fact that we didn't take advantage is what left us exposed to a late goal.
What was really worrying for me was the fight O'Connor and McGovern had on the pitch in the 2nd half. I don't know what was said but it was very heated, O'Connor should not have reacted the way he did, absolutely no way to talk to your captain.
very bad game. total lack of quality from both sides and the referee. bray need something big to happen quickly if there to get out of this mess. hopefully we can start beating a couple of the teams around us ie home farm etc.
me feels big change needed in the club..................
oh and as far as sunday home matches go i think their pathetic, absolutly hate them
DEVO: 'we want to challenge for the league next season' - speaking at the player of the year awards nite 2005. boy was he so far wrong!!
It was another poor performance from the Wanderers. UCD would have deserved the three points...still, I'm grateful for small mercies. We are absolutely clueless in attack...the tactic of the day seemed to be to bring the ball out to the sideline, and look to cross it in for a forward that wasn't there. I don't know what the solution is.
I though UCD deserved three points in a very poor game. I think Skippy's kicking wasn't helped by the wind and it's pretty stupid to get on his back for the quality of his kicking in those conditions. As for Doyler, he has every right tto celebrate like that especially after the stick the UCD fans gave him i.e. "fat". He's not fat and some of the UCD fans can hardly talk on that front, imo.
PS, I feel your pain. I got sunburnt on my face too.
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I thought the taunts only game afterwards, not that I taunted him myself, I was too shattered.
Not used to the afternoon matches either, you tend to feel immune due to the evening games.PS, I feel your pain. I got sunburnt on my face too.
To be fair Frank, Quigley seemed to be having a lot more joy kicking into the same wind. My thoughts in the first half were that you should have played it short from the back.
i agree totally, every ball in the 2nd half was booted in to the right corner for doyle to chase the left side was obsolete and doyle is so predictable he made it easy for the defenders i havent seen us trying to play ball once since tony took over and we look very unfit maybe devo wasn't that bad after all......
yeah some of the players are'nt up to scratch fitness wise, not all of them thou.
I though Damien Duff's brother was supposed to be the fitness coach. The lack of fitness on some players behalf would explain all the late goals conceded recently.
yeah he is and in fairness he has taken them on leaps and bounds since he started, but fo some reason some of them are looking sluggish. Cut out the booze is what i say !
In Fairness to Duffer, most of the fitness work is done pre-season and not mid-season, so any fitness problems is down to training techniques and players themselves.
Bray's tactics are up there bhind at mo, proved that in game against Drogs, Doolin made his changes after game was not going his way, got the goal, Bray had lost momentum well before that, Mcguirk didn't change system or make changes untill last 4 minutes, what where they meant to do in that time, they are no come back kings like Man u in 99. Says alot for a team's midfield and Defense when a striker, who's being played out of position all season had to make one last ditch tackle to saved a goal and then do enough to put drogs player off to save another, where was Foxy, tresson etc.
Doesn't really matter who you have in the team when your forced to play to the way Mcguirk, eddie Gormless and Co have been telling the players since they took control. Alot of the Mgnt team were Devo's Yes boys, and have to step up to mark otherwise Bray will be playing first division football after next season.
Not a great sign when team is conceding goals from basic errors, especially from experienced players. Think like this forum bray need to have a clear the air, get the sh8te out in the open and then go from their.
don't think its going to get better untill certain players and Mcguirks attitudes change, this golden boys club where certain player do not get dropped reardless of form which existed under Devo maybe continuing under this management.
As for Robbie Doyle celebrations, who cares, was his first league goal this season, any player who hadn't scored in while would probably celebrate in a simular way, and if he was having taunt so what, We give players enough stick when we want so sometimes got to taste our own medicine, provided it was in good taste, common guys educated dudes like you shouldn't be getting upset so easily especially as you are no angels yourself
PS Nivea visage aftersoon might work wonders for you sunburn so the girlfriend says anyway
Agree with a lot of what your saying there.....
[QUOTE=Brayhead101]In Fairness to Duffer, most of the fitness work is done pre-season and not mid-season, so any fitness problems is down to training techniques and players themselves.[QUOTE]
A lot of the lads are fairly fond of a pint or ten, does'nt help what so ever. I know there entitled to go out and relax but ya see them absolutely smashed some nights.....
[QUOTE=Brayhead101]Bray's tactics are up there bhind at mo, proved that in game against Drogs, Doolin made his changes after game was not going his way, got the goal.[QUOTE]
Well that goal was down our lack of concentration, We had 3 or 4 chances to clear the ball. Daz had loads of time but tried to be smart and cut back inside when he should have put the ball on the dart line. Skippy should have let Giffy know to clear it but let it run accross him and Weso was far to slow to react and played it back into the path of Keegan.
[QUOTE=Brayhead101] Says alot for a team's midfield and Defense when a striker, who's being played out of position all season had to make one last ditch tackle to saved a goal and then do enough to put drogs player off to save another, where was Foxy, tresson etc.[QUOTE]
Superb tackle alright, but thats our problem, so many of the players are'nt putting the effotr in, which means the players who are trying (they might not be playing great but they are trying !) are having to do other peoples job on the pitch which in turn means we loose out on a lot of posession in midfield. Think the major one was when Doyle had to to all of Zayed's work for him, he was up front last Sunday but still ended up tracking back 90 yards and ending up in the wrong end of the pitch, that needs to stop !
[QUOTE=Brayhead101]Doesn't really matter who you have in the team when your forced to play to the way Mcguirk, eddie Gormless and Co have been telling the players since they took control. Alot of the Mgnt team were Devo's Yes boys, and have to step up to mark otherwise Bray will be playing first division football after next season.[QUOTE]
Thats the strange thing, when Devo was in charge last season and had to take time out for the hip op, McGuirk took over, Bray actually started to play FOOTBALL, the ball was kept on the deck and we actually played a lot of decent stuff. But, for some reason it's all changed with him now, long ball every time, we have'nt got the players for that style so can't understand why he persists. Like we actuaslly have some players who can get it down and pass the ball - Caffo, Doyler, James, Pip, Tarzan and D. Tyrrell are all great footballers and can pass the ball. We need to start playing to our strengths and stop just going out to try and cancel other teams hoping for a draw or to snatch a win
[QUOTE=Brayhead101]Not a great sign when team is conceding goals from basic errors, especially from experienced players. Think like this forum bray need to have a clear the air, get the sh8te out in the open and then go from their.[QUOTE]
Thats our main problem, we make to many basic errors. The concentration levels are shocking. The club defo need to get in a sports physcologist to help with this, it's a major factor into our declin this season compared to last year.
[QUOTE=Brayhead101]don't think its going to get better untill certain players and Mcguirks attitudes change, this golden boys club where certain player do not get dropped reardless of form which existed under Devo maybe continuing under this management.[QUOTE]
A lot of player need to take a long hard look at themselves with the way thay have been preforming thi season, there experienced oplayer and know what needs to be done. Attitudes need to be changed and preformance levels need to be severely upped.
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