QuoteAsk my physioOriginally Posted by holycrossjock
so when are we expecting to see these skills
so when are we expecting to see these skills
Last edited by Jock MIB; 30/10/2006 at 5:09 PM. Reason: bad english again
Ask my physioso when are we expecting to see these skills
I think the ref situation should definately be looked at when it comes to matchs...Top teams always seem to be favoured when it comes to referees and there availability...If u ask me ,if there are teams that have played about 8 games in a league and there is one that has only played about 3(for example) then the team with only 3 games played should automatically have a game that weekend and so on all the way down the league ,..???
The problem with that is games down in the bottom 2 or 3 divisions would never get played. Thats obviously the way its being done at the moment and its not working. Our A team are going to win or challenge for nothing this season yet they have had a game every weekend for the last 6 or 7 weeks. Our B team are second in their league, unbeaten, and havent had a game in 4 weeks and have none this week thanks to the FAI. So IF we do have a game the week after it will be our first in 6 weeks. Thats a bit much.
We are paying money every week for an astro pitch to train on but it seems like money wasted. I would be quite happy for the leagues (3A-4B) to be suspended until the clocks change and then play 1 and if possible 2 games a week. We only have 11 games left so it could be finished off in 6-7 weeks if it was done right. Clubs would save on training costs and a lot of hassle would be avoided.
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That seems like a good idea larry until you consider that a lot of those teams are country teams and once the clock change again a lot of them will go back playing gaa. I can't see it happening for that reason ..... Im not saying it right I'm just saying thats the way it is
i hear dave morris leaving pike for boro???
I understand that...I have been missing 3 guys myself for the last 6 or 7 weeks and still wont be back for another 2.
But what the GAA do doesnt concern me in the slightest. If guys want to play football just to stay fit for GAA then thats their problem. Its up to each person to decide what sport they want to play first but I am going to make sure I have enough players in my squad to contend with that.
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You hear wrong
he trained with Corbally last week
68, 99, 08
who else did he train with last week ?
looks like the problems are starting again for a certain manager only matter of time before his gone
He trained with Pike on Thursday.
who ? surely managers are judged on what they win and it is a bit early on that unless you are out of both national comps ?
It could have been the week before so, but a Corbally player told me himself that Davey trained with them either last week or the week before!!!!
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he trained with Corbally alright the week before last. I dont think he trained with the boro. I might stand corrected on that.
it wouldn't suprise me if he went to corbally, he's from that side of town and played with them before. He's either been on the bench or playing left full for us this year, neither of which im sure he happy about
Look, he trained with Corbally Tuesday last and Pike on Thursday. He's going nowhere and that is the end of that.
He did train on the Tuesday of last week with Corbally but went back to Pike on the Thursday, had a chat with the manager and told him what he thought. He is staying with Pike.
"I would be quite happy for the leagues (3A-4B) to be suspended until the clocks change and then play 1 and if possible 2 games a week"
Are you serious? So you mean these teams would play no matches at all for a couple of months and then 2 games a week? thats madness.. if a player gets injured he would miss most of the season. I play in one of those divisions and we havent had a game for 5 weeks.. 6 if our match is called off this week.
Its ridiculous and there are a lot players thinkign why should they bother playing at all. They are not good enough or are too old to play in a top division so thats why they play those leagues. Surely everyone in limerick is entitled to a game if they make an effort.
I just think that some teams train every week, dont get to play matches and are just messed about. Its not good enough. No team should go longer than 3 weeks without a game no matter what the cost. I know weather etc plays a huge part but sometimes its just the lack of a ref.. call off a game from division 2 and give these teams a game.
I will say this again... why not next season... get rid of division 4a and 4b... merge division 3a and 3b into division 3a and make 4a and 4b division 3b. There are enough teams to do this and give these temas more matches in a season. Get rid of the league if needs be as no-one cares about that anyway down there!
So next season.. instead of for example a team in a bottom division having a measly 14 games all season they would have maybe 22 games and more. If a team cannot field a team they forfit the match 3-0 or whatever.
Thats my two cents. What do you think Old Keeper. I am sure many people on here will agree with me....??
Hi Poloman, I manage a team in 3B and we too havent had a game in 4 weeks and we have none this weekend thanks to the FAI so I and my players know exactly what you are talking about. Yet we still pay to train every week on astro and train on grass on Sundays. For what? The cost to enter the league was the exact same for my B team as it was for our A team, yet they get more games in their league, more cups to enter and no games cancelled because there are no refs available.
While some may feel that the higher divisions are "more" important, there are plenty of lads playing in the lower divisions who take it just as seriously as anyone in 1A or 1B. If they are paying the same to play and willing to put the same time and effort in then it is only right that they should have just the same opportunity to play.
Oldkeeper has already heard a number of suggestions from some of us here (im sure hes sick of me) on how to improve things but even if you took the 32 teams in this seasons 3a - 4b divisions and formed them into 2 or 3 divisions, you will still have the same number of fixtures to be played in the end. yes it means more games for each team but if there is still a shortage on referees then you will still have huge number of free weekends.
Last season we played no league match between the 2nd week in December and the second sunday in March so it is not beyond the realms of possibility for the leagues to be suspended until March/April. Call it a winter break if you like.
Another possible suggestion we came up with over the weekend was maybe if the restriction on the number of free weekends was scrapped or increased. The only rule would be you have to apply 3 weeks beforehand instead of 2. If more teams had official free weekends it would free up refs to take charge of games where there were teams available and eager to play. Plus the increase in minimum notice would ensure no clubs could pull a fast one. I have used one free weekend already this season when we actually did have a game fixed. Since then we have had 5 free weekends.
18 times, and that's a fact.
Hi All
In relation to the league makeup, the current makeup was determined in august this year after clubs indicated the teams they would be entering. Unfortunately some of these teams did not materialise and as a result there are smaller numbers in the lower divisions. I am sure a more stringent method of applying will be introduced next season.
The issue of lack of games is a more difficult one and while there are a number of suggestions to be discussed NO club has as yet written to the committee to express disappointment that their teams have only played 4 games since the start of the season. There are a number of clubs in the same boat and until they begin to be vocal and the committee hears from them there is little that can be done. There are some people touting the idea that lower clubs are happy enough with the fixtures as they are!
A lot of the suggestions that are being put forward here are good ones and could be implemented but remember this is a chat site and is not the basis for decision-making. Your clubs MUST become more involved in the league and must express your views if the situation is to change. There is a delegate meeting on the 7th of Nov so ask your clubs to raise your concerns.
The referees are not a problem the Lack of referees is! We need to look at the possibility of spreading the game load across the week with possibly having some games switched to neutral venues if the teams approve and also looking at the start times for games. This will only happen when the league and the refs agree on these issues.
Lastly I must say that it is difficult to discuss matters pertaining to the running of the league when some of the very clubs you are trying to serve are actively involved in fostering a culture of mistrust and fear in the league. This rumour that a couple of the bigger clubs (I use that term loosely as my own opinion of a bigger club is how many teams they field not the size of their bar or pitch) are trying to move a motion of no confidence in the current committee for a variety of silly reasons, is bugging a lot of people who have put a great effort into the running of the league. These same clubs have never approached the committee with any questions or queries in relation to the issues they are touting as being mismanagement of the league. I would challenge anyone from these clubs to a debate on the running of the LDL and if after this debate the majority feel that the league is being run badly I will walk away. It is cowardly to hide and snipe at decisions that one has had no part in making but far more honourable to stand and ask a question in the right forum. So any one who has a problem with the league please be honourable and follow the procedures set down. And by the way if you do have the 36 clubs standing shoulder to shoulder just send this long awaited letter!!!!
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Larry,
You make sense with the idea that players in the lower leagues do take it as seriously as other teams. I am honestly on the verge of retiring or going playing that stupid night owls league.. my interest has never been so low.
I will be honest and say my team is a joke. Our manager is crap and he wouldnt dream of having the nerve to speak up to the committe (ie make a suggestion). One match this season away we had a player concussed and he left him in the dressing room, the lad was unable to put his own jeans on and he had to spend the night in hospital. Then he texted him monday to ask would he be trainign on tuesday!! Of course the player and his mates left the club after that. Anyway thats our team and nothing to do with here I am just ranting..
Keeper ya I agree that this is a forum and managers need to address the committe but our manager doesnt even attend our training sessions so I guess we cant do anything this season.
The committee do hard work and there will always be gripes from clubs/players no matter what happens, its just part of human nature. I suppose the easiest thing to do is have a post year AGM (or two agms one for top half of league and the other for bottom half of league else it would take a full day!) where every manager/representative HAS to attend or their team are left out for the next season. Then our '''''leaders''''' can express their concerns and voice their suggestions so they cannot tuen around durign the season and say they were never heard or had a chance to say what they want.
Its a tough call really but what can you do. At least you listen to us keeper and thats something but I agree that it has to be official and not said here but sometimes our less than intelligent managers are so crap they pick a team with whoeverturns up on the day, they dont attend training and they get voted in every year as they are mates with the sponsors so we dont have a choice in the matter!
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