What Should the LDMC be Doing for Clubs ?

**Soccer Lover** · 03/08/2006, 6:27 PM

What about liasing with the refs, what they expect from us and what we expect from them. The consistancy last season between different refs left a lot to be desired.

**Old keeper** · 03/08/2006, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Soccer Lover

What about liasing with the refs, what they expect from us and what we expect from them. The consistancy last season between different refs left a lot to be desired.

Good point! might be an idea to have sessions with club secretaries and refs reps to discuss items like that. I will bring it to the table. Thanks

**Soccer Lover** · 03/08/2006, 10:22 PM

Old keeper,

Is there a course that players can do to learn the rules?

**renovater** · 04/08/2006, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by Soccer Lover

Old keeper,

Is there a course that players can do to learn the rules?

Yes
referees inspector gives seminars to people wishing to be come associates or full time refs

**renovater** · 04/08/2006, 7:35 PM

Originally Posted by Old keeper

Good point! might be an idea to have sessions with club secretaries and refs reps to discuss items like that. I will bring it to the table. Thanks

The best way to deal with this matter is to have an agenda put forward to the league secretary out lining problems you might be having inturn refs can do the same and let the two bodys trash iit out.
and the league come back to you with the answers.

**Soccer Lover** · 04/08/2006, 8:36 PM

Originally Posted by renovater

Yes
referees inspector gives siminars to poeple wishing to be come assicates or full time refs

Don't want to referee, just get to know the rules, I thought you could'nt shout "my ball" but in a game I involved in the referee never gave a free kick for the opposition calling it. It's this sort of thing I'd like to know? Am I alone

**bigguy** · 04/08/2006, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Soccer Lover

Don't want to referee, just get to know the rules, I thought you could'nt shout "my ball" but in a game I involved in the referee never gave a free kick for the opposition calling it. It's this sort of thing I'd like to know? Am I alone

Im not sured but think that rule is gone,it used to be deemed as obstruction did it not

**Old keeper** · 07/08/2006, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by bigguy

Im not sured but think that rule is gone,it used to be deemed as obstruction did it not

The rule is still there but simular to the Offside rule the action is not an offence unless it is interfearing with play so you could be calling "mine" while on your own and no bother but if the referee feels that you were interfeering with another player you will be penalised.

**Old keeper** · 07/08/2006, 12:38 AM

We will put on our thinking caps on the rules and come up with a way to get info out to players and managers.

**lim abroad** · 07/08/2006, 4:58 AM

Originally Posted by Old keeper

We will put on our thinking caps on the rules and come up with a way to get info out to players and managers.

old keeper,can clubs sign players that aren't registered with anyone after the transfer deadline?

**Old keeper** · 08/08/2006, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by lim abroad

old keeper,can clubs sign players that aren't registered with anyone after the transfer deadline?

Yes the transfer deadline is only for players who have been signed already in the league, you can sign new players at any time as long as its their first signing.

**diablo** · 08/08/2006, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by Old keeper

Yes the transfer deadline is only for players who have been signed already in the league, you can sign new players at any time as long as its their first signing.

By new player do you mean a player who has played in the league say last season but not signed with anyone for the coming season yet? Or is it someone who has never played before?

**Old keeper** · 09/08/2006, 4:22 PM

Originally Posted by diablo

By new player do you mean a player who has played in the league say last season but not signed with anyone for the coming season yet? Or is it someone who has never played before?

Hi Diablo
Each season is started from scratch so anybody who was signed with a club last season is free to sign with any club this season, if he has not signed this season and wishes to sign after the transfer deadline he is free to do so. The transfer deadline is only for players who have already signed with a club for the current season and wish to move to another club. (There are other rules in relation to professional players and eircom league players but these are the exception)

**Bonovox** · 18/08/2006, 7:01 AM

Oldkeeper, I see LDMC washing their dirty linen on the front page of the website regarding the half fees. It came as a surprise to me to read that LDMC purchased the new balls. I was sure the chairman on the night said that they were sponsorship from Errea. Anyhow you say on the website Fees were set at €300 for junior teams and €200 for youth teams. In an effort to ease the pain of the increase the league decided to purchase a match ball for every team that registered and this would be issued on the night that forms were collected. Why increase the fees and then spend the increase and more on a ball that most clubs don't need or want????. ...........are the LDMC trying to justify suspending one of its members for four years through the new website? If so, it doesn't look good to be honest.

**Old keeper** · 18/08/2006, 9:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bonovox

Oldkeeper, I see LDMC washing their dirty linen on the front page of the website regarding the half fees. It came as a surprise to me to read that LDMC purchased the new balls. I was sure the chairman on the night said that they were sponsorship from Errea...........are the LDMC trying to justify suspending one of its members for four years through the new website? If so, it doesn't look good to be honest.

In the bad old days the ldmc was often accused of being secretive and hiding from clubs. the post on the website is the first part of clarifing to all clubs what the situation is in relation to fees and the rumors that clubs were forced to buy a ball! the follow up will be that each secretary will be sent a detailed outline of fees and costs assocated with registering a team for the new season. this action was taken as a result of requests from a number of clubs. regarding the balls, these were NOT sponsored by errea but were purchased by the league from errea who are the league sponsors.
I cannot comment currently on the statement you make in relation to a member being suspended. I am sure you can understand that all matters need to follow a set course.

I will always reply to posts with facts and will not put a spin on issues. When I don't have answers I will say so and will try to find them. If you think that it would be better to allow some clubs to feel agreived or in the dark on issues then that is a step backward in my opinion. The whole idea of the website is to allow greater transparancy of the process and when everybody has the facts it is much easier to make informed decisions at delegate meetings, also remember that it is the clubs who own the league the committee are there to facilitate football
lastly the website or any other medium will never be needed to justify a decision of the LDLC as the facts when known will speak for themselves.

**leather** · 18/08/2006, 10:31 AM

Well Done Old Keeper...

**abbeyvale** · 18/08/2006, 11:21 AM

OldKeeper
Whats the ruling on kicking the ball out of play for an injured (or not so injured) opposition player this season?

Has it changed, as it has for the professional game?

Just wondering

**Old keeper** · 18/08/2006, 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by abbeyvale

OldKeeper
Whats the ruling on kicking the ball out of play for an injured (or not so injured) opposition player this season?

Has it changed, as it has for the professional game?

Just wondering

Don't know but I will try to find out

**Bonovox** · 18/08/2006, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by Old keeper

In the bad old days the ldmc was often accused of being secretive and hiding from clubs. the post on the website is the first part of clarifing to all clubs what the situation is in relation to fees and the rumors that clubs were forced to buy a ball! the follow up will be that each secretary will be sent a detailed outline of fees and costs assocated with registering a team for the new season. this action was taken as a result of requests from a number of clubs. regarding the balls, these were NOT sponsored by errea but were purchased by the league from errea who are the league sponsors.
I cannot comment currently on the statement you make in relation to a member being suspended. I am sure you can understand that all matters need to follow a set course.

I will always reply to posts with facts and will not put a spin on issues. When I don't have answers I will say so and will try to find them. If you think that it would be better to allow some clubs to feel agreived or in the dark on issues then that is a step backward in my opinion. The whole idea of the website is to allow greater transparancy of the process and when everybody has the facts it is much easier to make informed decisions at delegate meetings, also remember that it is the clubs who own the league the committee are there to facilitate football
lastly the website or any other medium will never be needed to justify a decision of the LDLC as the facts when known will speak for themselves.

Oldkeeper

Much respect for your reply as always. However you still haven't clarified for me the following: why increase the fees from 270 to 300 and then buy a ball out of the increase for the clubs when most of them didn't need or want them? Would it not have been better to leave the fees at 270 and let those clubs who wanted a ball to buy them themselves and the rest could save costs.

**Old keeper** · 18/08/2006, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bonovox

Oldkeeper

Much respect for your reply as always. However you still haven't clarified for me the following: why increase the fees from 270 to 300 and then buy a ball out of the increase for the clubs when most of them didn't need or want them? Would it not have been better to leave the fees at 270 and let those clubs who wanted a ball to buy them themselves and the rest could save costs.

Hi Bonovox

you need to separate the ball from the fees. the majority of clubs were delighted to get a match ball free. the decision to increase fees needed to be taken and was voted and passed. the decision to issue a match ball was based on a refreshing view that the ldmc needed to support and help clubs as much as possible. one thing that every team needs is a match ball! and while some clubs have plenty there are a large amount of our clubs who find it difficult to make ends meet and the issue of a ball was most welcome. if you break down the fee increase it was �30 over the 12 months this equates to a �15 increase in half fees. this was nowhere near the cost of the ball but the ball was a gesture of support from the LDL to all clubs not just the wealthy few. I would forsee further support for youth football in the coming season and would hope that it would not cause the same aggro.