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    How to survive penalty shootouts, apparently

    Take a look at this from the BBC website.

    I prefer the 'pick a corner and hit it hard' method myself.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ls/5124636.stm

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    Well there is a theory called Muscle Memory. Which states that if you practice an action often enough in training , i.e. taking penalties, that when you have to do it in reality; The body will take over and stick it in the net without you thinking too much about it. I believe there could be something in it. Motto... PRACTICE PENALTIES! it's good for those taking them and also for your keepers who have to face the other lots spot-kicks.

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    Argentina apparently practiced for 40 minutes the day before the Germany match - didn't do them much good.

    Interesting watching the penalties and trying to see who'd miss and who's score. Lampard was clearly going to miss - he looked away from goal as he placed the ball almost as if he'd missed already. England's players were generally all giving off the wrong vibes.

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    too short or too long of a run generally miss too. Gerard was white when Lampard missed and even whiter when he stepped up to take his own penalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by macdermesser
    too short[...]of a run generally miss too.
    Good old two-step Timofte!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macdermesser
    too short or too long of a run generally miss too
    what about bepe signiori, the italian one stepper, class act as i recall,somehow, blasting into alternate top corners with a non-changing one step back approach.

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    I think the best approach for penalties is to be German. Notice who the only England player to score was?
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    Placing it in the top corner would stop any debate about how to mentally prepare yourself for penalties. Hamann for Liverpool against West Ham and Milan shows you don't need to blast it, you don't need to hope the keeper goes the other way, you can afford to have broken run-ups, all you've to do is hit it high and even a renowned penalty saver like Dida can't stop them.

    Either that or hit the opposite way you're shaping up like you're going to hit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    Lampard was clearly going to miss - he looked away from goal as he placed the ball almost as if he'd missed already.
    You didn't need to look at him in the shhot out to know he'd miss, he'd been doing it all tournament.
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    The germans have only ever missed 1 penaly in World Cup Penalty shoot outs winning all 6 they have been involved in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
    I think the best approach for penalties is to be German. Notice who the only England player to score was?
    A Canadian?

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    Does anybody believe that some players really have the ability to send the keeper the wrong way?

    I often see penalties where the keeper goes the wrong way, the penalty looks perfect, and the commentator says something like "sent him the wrong way". But I always think that if the keeper had dived the other way he would have saved it easily.

    Luck or skill??

    If it is skill, how do they do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan
    Does anybody believe that some players really have the ability to send the keeper the wrong way?
    I do...but it needs a very good penalty and very confident player to do it. Generally there seems to be a lot more penalties saved now as I think keepers have copped on to how/where they're shaping up to hit the ball.

    It's different to the keeper just guessing wrong..which is generally intereted as sending him the wrong way.
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    Look at postiga on Robinson, he sent him the wrong way. Cantona had the knack of doing it also. Just as a keeper can read a player a player can read a keeper also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d f x-
    It's different to the keeper just guessing wrong..which is generally intereted as sending him the wrong way.
    Plenty of those are the keeper sending the player the right way, so to speak: the keeper moves early or makes it obvious which way he's going and the player puts it the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD
    The germans have only ever missed 1 penaly in World Cup Penalty shoot outs winning all 6 they have been involved in.
    I thought the one v-Argentina was only their fourth ever world cup shoot out; or have I been misled yet again by ESPN's "soccer" commentators?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marked Man
    I thought the one v-Argentina was only their fourth ever world cup shoot out; or have I been misled yet again by ESPN's "soccer" commentators?
    4 in the WC is right; 82 v France, 86 v Mexico, 90 v England , 06 v Argentina. I think they have been involved in 2 in Euro finals. 76 v Czechs (which they lost) and 96 v England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    Argentina apparently practiced for 40 minutes the day before the Germany match - didn't do them much good.
    I expect the Germans also practiced. Practicing doesn't guarantee success, it just makes it more likely.

    I don't understand the "it's a lottery, no point in practicing" school of thought. Alan Shearer is a staunch subscriber to the lottery philosophy which I found very surprising considering the methodical way he seemed to dispatch penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD
    Look at postiga on Robinson, he sent him the wrong way. Cantona had the knack of doing it also. Just as a keeper can read a player a player can read a keeper also.
    remember Fashanu's 'trickler' pens for wimbledon some years back, that style depended 100% on fooling the keeper into going the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by el punter
    I expect the Germans also practiced. Practicing doesn't guarantee success, it just makes it more likely.
    Practicing should at least guarantee that your penalties are someway decent.

    Which is where my argument falls down, as I just realised I listened to the shoot out on radio and don't know if the Argies' misses were bad misses or good saves...

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