eL Vote for FAI merger

**pineapple stu** · 30/06/2006, 8:18 AM

Originally Posted by soccerc

Don't go down as you did elsewhere the ultra vires route as it is not applicable in this instance[...]The memorandum and articles of association, if they are, would if they comply with them would allow this merger and if not incorporated, once they complied with their constitution or rules and within civil law then all is ok.

All well and good if the FAI were a stand-alone body answerable to no-one. But it's not.

**Dodge** · 30/06/2006, 8:59 AM

That press release bugs the hell out of me. The use of the words Domestic and Home really annoy me. The 4 tier structure (of which 2 of them will be made up of reserves and kids) annoys me. The "this is one and only shot" crap annoys me. Its basically giving the FAI an excuse to forget about the league when in 3 years we still have ****e crowds and we still have no investment.

Just looking back at the proposals, more clubs will lose in prize money so there'll be an even bigger gap between Shels, Cork, Derry, Drogs and the rest.

Good points include the slimming of the EL management committee and 2 "outsiders" being there (unless they bring in Finbar Flood as a an outsider in which case I'll shoot Delaney - although the use of the word specialist seems to indicate its going to be genisus people (of which the FAI have shares in surely!)

Also are the FAI going to pay for these "community related Club Promotions Officers for Premiership clubs" and if a club is relegated will they stop funding this person. If they aren't paying for it (as they haven't paid for all the other demands they've made on clubs its an indictment of how serious they are)

To summarise, Pineapple Stu is right

(and BTW I full expect Pats to be in there despite Delaney's hatred of Kerr)

**Danny** · 30/06/2006, 9:03 AM

Also are the FAI going to pay for these "community related Club Promotions Officers for Premiership clubs"

Each fo the 12 premier league clubs will get 10k for these Promotions officiers.
This was stated when the details of the merger came out about a month ago.

**Jerry The Saint** · 30/06/2006, 9:06 AM

Originally Posted by Red4Eva

even though my club could possily get screwed worst of all, i'm delighted that the merger has been agreed.

I don't really understand this at all.

The FAI are taking the same name as the league in England and they're letting the owner of Sunderland FC pick the clubs involved. They've increased the prize money but also the cost of taking part in the league. 10-team league was deemed to have failed by a majority of clubs a few seasons ago and now we're going back to it. They don't know the difference between a 4-tier league and a 2-tier league with a reserve league and an U-20 league (Unless I've missed something and they intend to have promotion/relegation between the U-20's and A-League etc.) The league will now be run by the organisation that scheduled an FAI Cup draw 1 month after the previous round and 2 months before the next round.

And yet some people would still prefer that to the current situation even if it meant their team getting relegated after finishing in the top-half of the league

**Danny** · 30/06/2006, 9:13 AM

The A League will include some non eL clubs
The highest placed of these will have a play off v bottom team in the 1st division to gain promotion.

**chippie0001** · 30/06/2006, 9:45 AM

When this is a total failure like almost everything else touched by the FAI has been, I hope the people that think its great don't come back crying. I have no doubt Bohs will be in the top division but getting into bed with John Delaney and the FAI based on a report that could have been put together by a group of EL fans over a weekend in a bedroom scares the crap out of me.

I have not seen one concrete proposal as to how the grounds will be increased, how much grant moeny is available to do up grounds, how commercial income will be raised. I was told by a Bohs official that the wage cap means nothing as all clubs can budget to win the league, setanta etc and then base their wages on that proposed income. Now there's a fudge if I ever heard one.

I for one hope UCD or whoever go to court, hold this farce up and win.

**Dodge** · 30/06/2006, 10:19 AM

10K for a promotions officer? So either they're paying student to hand out flyers or they're takinng the ****

**Raheny Red** · 30/06/2006, 10:59 AM

What will the story be with the issue of season tickets. For the FAI cup they are not accepted so will there be changes to this or what?

**pete** · 30/06/2006, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

What will the story be with the issue of season tickets. For the FAI cup they are not accepted so will there be changes to this or what?

I don't know how this relates to new league proposals? FAI gate receipts are split between the home and away team so how can you allow season tickets in free?

Back on topic. I think the FAI taking charge is a good thing as couldn't be any worse than the eL. However much of wahts proposed is sketchy & is far from radical. Considering we starting with effectively new league they should have waited a couple fo years & then launched with a bit bang, new sponsors, new media covrage, tv , branding etc etc... Instead we get more or less same as what we have not with slow drip feed changes.

**Student Mullet** · 30/06/2006, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Good points include the slimming of the EL management committee and 2 "outsiders" being there (unless they bring in Finbar Flood as a an outsider in which case I'll shoot Delaney - although the use of the word specialist seems to indicate its going to be genisus people (of which the FAI have shares in surely!)

My understanding there is that one of the outsiders will be someone from an english club and the other a sponsors' rep, presumably from eircom.

**Pauro 76** · 30/06/2006, 11:46 AM

Im a bit uneasy about the changes. using the same name as the English Premiership for starters.. what's Niall Quinn got to do with choosing teams? it just seems a bit shallow, reminds me of a beauty contest for some bizarre reason. Is the 'A' league a Conference style set-up? But if its a makeover thing like the Premiership in England, it may improve TV coverage and presentation at least....

**Raheny Red** · 30/06/2006, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by pete

I don't know how this relates to new league proposals? FAI gate receipts are split between the home and away team so how can you allow season tickets in free?

Well it relates to the new league proposals as the FAI will be running the league now! Season tickets are not permitted for cup games so I'm wondering what will happen when the FAI are fully in control of the league

**A face** · 30/06/2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by PAURO 7

Im a bit uneasy about the changes. using the same name as the English Premiership for starters.. what's Niall Quinn got to do with choosing teams? it just seems a bit shallow, reminds me of a beauty contest for some bizarre reason. Is the 'A' league a Conference style set-up? But if its a makeover thing like the Premiership in England, it may improve TV coverage and presentation at least....

Doesnt Niall Quinn have his GAA to worry about ..... surely he needs to devote his undivided attention to that ??

**Dodge** · 30/06/2006, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Well it relates to the new league proposals as the FAI will be running the league now! Season tickets are not permitted for cup games so I'm wondering what will happen when the FAI are fully in control of the league

Jesus talk about being able to see the wood for the trees.