QuoteHe is owed a lot of money, has a lengthy contract and you're short on cash. He's going nowhere unless he chooses. I agree with you though, his European tactics are tiresome, repetitive and negative.Originally Posted by Shelsman
Muppet Fenlon to play for a draw with 4-5-1 again
Can you believe it! I read in the 'Mirror' today that Fenlon will be playing
4-5-1
in the second ( HOME! ) leg against Vetra on Saturday.
HAS HE LEARNT NOTHING!?!?!
If we lose this game then he should definitely go. If I were in Dublin I'd be tempted NOT to go to the game. The thought of seeing Shels hammer the ball up to a lone striker for 90mins sickens me.
All this achieves is giving the ball straight to the opposition and then the team lives on a wing and a prayer, hoping the opposition don't score while we chase them round trying to get the ball back again - only to give it away againseconds later.
In European ( if not all ) soccer, possession is everything.
Surely the stlye in which we beat Glentoran home and away by playing two up front is proof that the players we have can play proper football?????
He is owed a lot of money, has a lengthy contract and you're short on cash. He's going nowhere unless he chooses. I agree with you though, his European tactics are tiresome, repetitive and negative.
At least he has European tactics
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Higgins, do you not want to have any proper debate on his European tactics? Getting into Europe doesn't mean the rest of us can't observe your tactics.At least he has European tactics
No I can't believe it. The Mirror that is. Wait until the game is over and you've actually seen what tactics he employs. And Fenlon is going nowhere
Wouldn't surprise me in the least, this is classic Fenlon, the most fear addled manager in the league. Everyone says he has the best squad yet every time Shels secure a lead they retreat into their Shel, inevitably until they concede. Then they attack and show veryone what they are capable of, it must drive the players nutsy as well, constantly being kept on a leash.
Ok lets Debate it ....
Person A: I think 4-5-1 is boring too and would go 4-4-2
Person B: But he has had the leagues best ever results with 4-5-1
Person A: Your right but I think these are weak enough to get at with 4-4-2
Person B: But if its not broke dont try fix it
Person A: But other then Deportivo has the 4-5-1 really worked? I mean it was 4-4-2 when we came from two down and drew with Lille.
Person B: Whos to tell what score it may have been if we went at them from the start, it could have been another joke of an EL performance.
Person A: True but its a one trick pony and against the good sides wont be good enough to beat them over two legs, they adapt same as Lille did nad we were lucky it wasnt 7-0 over there.
Person B: So you think a 4-4-2 will beat a good side!
Person A: No Im not saying that but surely you have to vary your tactics.
Person B: Well Im not the manager who has masterminded the leagues best european result am I!!! and dont call me surely!!
Last edited by higgins; 22/06/2006 at 5:09 PM.
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Person B sounds like a dope.
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
4 -0 with 4-5-1... must have worked
Have you got any evidence whatsoever to back up all these claims you are making?
Lengthy contract, well that's public knowledge. You gave him 5 or 6 years recently. Owed money, seems to be common knowledge. Unable to pay players wages on time and the printers seems to hint you're short of cash or certainly the kind of cash to pay off such a long contract.
Well, when they were down to 9 Nutsy brought Jayo on for Creepy, this meant a 3-5-2 formation but at times it seemed more like a 5-3-2
Who Cares?!
He brought on Gary Deegan (U21 midfielder) who played wide left, and Ollie Cahill pushed back to left back. So it was a standard 4-4-2 then.
God
Have you got any actual evidence,or is it all just hear say or "common knowledge" as you like to refer to it as?
No evidence whatsoever, just listening to the usual shyte spouted on by probably Boez fans...
Sitting pretty!!!
Sure, that's it, the Bohs fans made it all up.
top of the league,in the next round of the intertoto the league and the fai cup and the fans want him sacked??
Who wants him sacked....
as you said our season is going very very well*
League
Intertoto
FAI Cup
League Cup
* apart from the players walking out and ollie running off with the cash and all our team signing for drogheda next week.
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Hah ah !!
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
I think the big question is....... given the same squad and resources, would another manager do better? Maybe, maybe not. My big issue is that when we go to play bigger clubs in Europe that we chicken out and play 4-5-1 long ball, which at best might get us a draw, but will definitely be horrendous and heart breaking to sit through. Eoin Hand is very critical of this approach too -and he would know a thing or two.
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