A Tale of Two Coaches: Kerr v Pekerman

**Noelys Guitar** · 22/06/2006, 1:49 PM

I cannot remember going all the way back to John Giles of so many Irish players lambasting an Irish manager. Kerr was not up to the job. He lost the dressing room. He has not been appointed an ANY other club or country since being sacked. What happened to the South Africa job which according to Kerr's mates in the media he had already been offered?..The India job?..The mysterious Champions league team which for some reason had to remain "unnamed!

**drinkfeckarse** · 22/06/2006, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

So you are encouraging murder or attempted murder.

You still have a bad habit of taking everything too far Neil...

**NeilMcD** · 22/06/2006, 2:31 PM

No we are having a debate on what should be done with the future of the FAI. I dont know WWS so I am asking him to explain his comment in relation to Delaney should be shot. What exactly does he mean by this. I am not sure how Delaney been shot either literally or whatever way its mean will benefit the Irish football team. i am trying to tease these answers from WWS. What exactly does he mean when he says that Delaney should be shot.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 22/06/2006, 2:33 PM

It's a figure of speech ffs

**NeilMcD** · 22/06/2006, 2:37 PM

I know but what does the figure of speech mean in real terms in this case. The context of this was a 4 point plan in order to improve the way Irish football is run. So what does it mean as a figure of speech that Delaney and his ilk should be shot. I would think that if you are putting forward a 10 point or 4 point plan on the way forward for Irish football, figure of speeches and coliquial terms such as someone should be shot really dont add anything to the debate. I am not sure of the constructive merits of it.

**wws** · 22/06/2006, 2:39 PM

The answer is that Alex now plays for Japan!

**osarusan** · 22/06/2006, 4:10 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

I know but what does the figure of speech mean in real terms in this case. The context of this was a 4 point plan in order to improve the way Irish football is run. So what does it mean as a figure of speech that Delaney and his ilk should be shot. I would think that if you are putting forward a 10 point or 4 point plan on the way forward for Irish football, figure of speeches and coliquial terms such as someone should be shot really dont add anything to the debate. I am not sure of the constructive merits of it.

Agreed. wws started this post, and when asked to put forward ideas to support his point, put as his first point either a figure of speech, or a bad joke.
Everybody knows its a figure of speech, but for a person argueing so vehemently that the FAI are to blame, his points didnt help him out.

**Jerry The Saint** · 22/06/2006, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

I dont know WWS so I am asking him to explain his comment in relation to Delaney should be shot. What exactly does he mean by this. I am not sure how Delaney been shot either literally or whatever way its mean will benefit the Irish football team. i am trying to tease these answers from WWS. What exactly does he mean when he says that Delaney should be shot.

I'm still waiting for wws to answer this important question - should we shoot Delaney gangland-style or execution-style? At the very least we should give his car some speed holes...

**Schumi** · 22/06/2006, 4:40 PM

Out of a cannon I say.

**wws** · 22/06/2006, 4:43 PM

I just got a cheque in the door from Genesis for my 4 point plan....

no wait its from Ollie Byrne....sh:t not worth the paper its written on!

**mypost** · 22/06/2006, 5:16 PM

Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge

I think that the main reason why our underage superstars did not develop into future senior internationals was that they were being shipped off to England at the earliest opportunity because the LoI is not up to standard. It would have been far better if the players were able to make sufficient progress playing in Ireland but that would have damaged the players development. Many of the players obviously did not have the drive and determination to make it to the top.

Just as well then, that Kevin Doyle didn't listen to that negativity.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 22/06/2006, 5:20 PM

And what age was Doyle when he moved to England? 21. The age I said players should leave Ireland. But of course you didn't inlcude that part of my post.

**pineapple stu** · 22/06/2006, 6:48 PM

Originally Posted by stickyjoe

israel never had an unbeaten record in israel like that. in 99 they even got hammered 5-0 by denmark in isreal in the euro 2000 qualifying play off

Lost 2-1 to Spain in the same series. Their full record's on rsssf.com. Suffered their share of friendly defeats too, all in Israel.

**pineapple stu** · 22/06/2006, 6:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

I'm still waiting for wws to answer this important question - should we shoot Delaney gangland-style or execution-style?

My advice would be to listen to his heart...

**pineapple stu** · 22/06/2006, 6:50 PM

Originally Posted by wws

The answer is that Alex now plays for Japan!

Adriano was top scorer.

(Apologies for the triple-post!)

**Dodge** · 22/06/2006, 10:46 PM

Was that him? Thought it was someone different altogether... (defo not the Japanese international)

**tetsujin1979** · 23/06/2006, 12:27 AM

According to his wikipedia profile, he's playing in Turkey. As far as I know, the Japanese Alex is living and playing in Japan. One of the commentators mentioned that he moved there as a kid and speaks the language fluently

**Dodge** · 23/06/2006, 7:58 AM

Adailton was top scorer in 1997, not Alex. And Adriano definitely wasn't in that squad as he'd have been 15 at the time. He played in the 2001 version

**drinkfeckarse** · 23/06/2006, 8:20 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

5 points to whoever can tell me what happened that Brazilian top scorer

Did he not go on to play in Germany for someone??

**pineapple stu** · 23/06/2006, 8:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Adailton was top scorer in 1997, not Alex. And Adriano definitely wasn't in that squad as he'd have been 15 at the time. He played in the 2001 version

Sorry - damn Brazilian names can be so similar at times!

So what happened him? And any takers for the three UCD players in the squad?