Shels line up Investors

[TheOwl]

I've heard Santry been mentioned but it only seems to be fans from other clubs saying that we are moving there next season AND with the stadium in its current state. Where has this story come from? As far as I know we haven't been kicked out of Tolka yet

[higgins]

there you go again rainman.

you reckon the running track goes do you? that clonliffe harriers are going to get the heave ho to suit you?

think before you post you jackass

ah great,
Jackass!!!!

Dont think you have called me that one before ...

[higgins]

But do you see it as lack of ambition moving into a stadium that only holds 800 seats?

If all it was to ever hold was 800 seats then yes of course I think it lacks ambition but as TheOwl says it was never stated the ground would remain untouched.

Tolka wasnt like the way it is today when we moved there either. Not that its anything to shout about but a patch of land a stones throw from Tolka with some potential and maybe the cash to do something with it sounds fair enough to me.

Our own new stadium would be ideal but a new santry would beat Tallaght, Dalymount or Richmond for me.

Thats IF it is Santry lads

[pineapple stu]

Just wait for news and then tell us all what you think.

Problem with that is that once the news comes out, it's too late to do anything about it. If you want to make a change for the better in your culb, you have to pre-empt the news. I would imagine topics are posted about on the internet as often as they are spoken about at games, for example - therefore, to me, a lack of discussion on an MB is indicative of a lack of discussion entirely. Without discussion, a clearer picture can't be gotten, groupings won't be made and, ultimately, nothing will happen. I would imagine the 400 Club didn't magically happen - it resulted from Shamrock Rovers fans talking about their club's situation and ultimately deciding to do something about it. That's why they were saved when the sh!t hit the fan - they were in a postiion to do something about it. That's the major issue here. Shels fans in the same situation will just go "Oh well, it's happened, this is what I think."

[higgins]

Problem with that is that once the news comes out, it's too late to do anything about it. If you want to make a change for the better in your culb, you have to pre-empt the news. I would imagine topics are posted about on the internet as often as they are spoken about at games, for example - therefore, to me, a lack of discussion on an MB is indicative of a lack of discussion entirely. Without discussion, a clearer picture can't be gotten, groupings won't be made and, ultimately, nothing will happen. I would imagine the 400 Club didn't magically happen - it resulted from Shamrock Rovers fans talking about their club's situation and ultimately deciding to do something about it. That's why they were saved when the sh!t hit the fan - they were in a postiion to do something about it. That's the major issue here. Shels fans in the same situation will just go "Oh well, it's happened, this is what I think."

Talking about things you have no idea of AS USUAL!!!

http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=359

[pineapple stu]

That's a Supporters' Club, higgins. Any club can have one of those. Does it purport just to give Shels money or are they interested in finding out what's going on and ultimately taking control if Ollie finally bites off more than he can chew?

[TheOwl]

That's a Supporters' Club, higgins. Any club can have one of those. Does it purport just to give Shels money or are they interested in finding out what's going on and ultimately taking control if Ollie finally bites off more than he can chew?

We already have a supporters' club this seems to be different and seen as one of their listed aims is to acquire shares in the club, I think it is fair to say they are interested in "finding out what is going on"

[pineapple stu]

No reason you can't have a second Supporters' Club. As I understand it anyway, the official SC isn't hugely active anyway. Also, the new group seems very close to Shels (i.e. announced on the official site) for something which is supposed to be rattling the cage a bit. Still, best of luck with it.

It doesn't alter my point, however, which is that higgins' attitude of "Let's wait and see what happens" is suicidal.

[higgins]

That's a Supporters' Club, higgins. Any club can have one of those. Does it purport just to give Shels money or are they interested in finding out what's going on and ultimately taking control if Ollie finally bites off more than he can chew?

Supporters Club
20 euro per week per member ???

We have a deal in place for 21% of the shares.
We will hopefully take responsibility for various funtions within the club (ie Run parts of Shelbourne)
We have a deal in place for 2 places on the Board of Management

and NO the money is belonged to SSDG and the members, its different to Shelbourne FC. Not one cent has changed hands yet and it wont until we have proper structures in place and all is transparent.

We are not aiming to take control but if it all went pear shaped its a good basis to carry Shelbourne on considering we would be already looking after various functions but we're not aiming for control, its important to stress that.

What Ollie does his his business, this SSDG will be around whoever is in place but hopefully Ollie is there for a while longer.

[higgins]

No reason you can't have a second Supporters' Club. As I understand it anyway, the official SC isn't hugely active anyway. Also, the new group seems very close to Shels (i.e. announced on the official site) for something which is supposed to be rattling the cage a bit. Still, best of luck with it.

It doesn't alter my point, however, which is that higgins' attitude of "Let's wait and see what happens" is suicidal.

Its not a 2nd Supporters Club!
Its a members club made up of Shelbourne supporters

The offical supporters club is not up to much I dont think, I have not been a part of it for a few years now anyway. They still run the half time raffle and do other things around Shelbourne but its not as big members wise as it once was.

The new group is close to Shels???
Not sure what you mean there?... Its not Shels but we are all working for the benefit of Shels so if thats close then yes we are close. As far as announcing it on the official site goes, eeeeeeeeeh thats where a lot of Shelbourne fans visit Its a good medium to get the word out about the group.

We have had about two months of Ad Hoc committee. Then a Open Meeting for all fans where we elected an Interim Committee and are now working towards our first AGM in Spetember. Care to join ???

As for my lets wait and see what happens
Im part of this new grouping and we have had meetings with Shelbourne over the past few weeks so Im not waiting to see whats happening!!!
You all just assume I am but that perfectly fine with me