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[higgins]

May I add one?

Do you believe a stadium with covered seats for 800 people belongs in the new look premier division next season?

an emphatic NO!!

[Student Mullet]

an emphatic NO!!

Where does that leave your move to Santry?

[higgins]

Ive not got a chance to look into the Santry thing too much the past two days.

If you have some details please post them.

Am I right your saying Shels are playing on an 800 seater stadium from the beginning of next season ?

wher eon earth did you hear that or are you doing what others do and add meat/lies to the bones of rumours.

[Student Mullet]

Ive not got a chance to look into the Santry thing too much the past two days.

If you have some details please post them.

Am I right your saying Shels are playing on an 800 seater stadium from the beginning of next season ?

wher eon earth did you hear that or are you doing what others do and add meat/lies to the bones of rumours.

I don't have any details other than to say that Santry has about 800 covered seats.

[WeAreRovers]

Ive not got a chance to look into the Santry thing too much the past two days.

You see this is what baffles the rest of us, the apparant lack of interest from Shels fans in the future of your club.

You've just been told that Shels are moving lock, stock and barrel to Santry. This massive news drew 7 post to this thread - http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=6037

Meanwhile last November, discussion on our MB about a temporary move to Santry attracted 240 posts on this thread - http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview....eyword1=Santry

While obviously internet talk is cheap and not representative it still beggars believe that your fanbase is ostensibly taking all this lying down.

I can confidently say that in your position we would at the very least ask the questions RTID outlined above re. Tolka, money etc. Failing any convincing answers we'd have taken action. It's your club, not his. Just like Rovers is ours and not Maguire or Kilcoyne's.

KOH

[higgins]

You see this is what baffles the rest of us, the apparant lack of interest from Shels fans in the future of your club.

You've just been told that Shels are moving lock, stock and barrel to Santry. This massive news drew 7 post to this thread - http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=6037

Meanwhile last November, discussion on our MB about a temporary move to Santry attracted 240 posts on this thread - http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview....eyword1=Santry

While obviously internet talk is cheap and not representative it still beggars believe that your fanbase is ostensibly taking all this lying down.

I can confidently say that in your position we would at the very least ask the questions RTID outlined above re. Tolka, money etc. Failing any convincing answers we'd have taken action. It's your club, not his. Just like Rovers is ours and not Maguire or Kilcoyne's.

KOH

Internet talk is cheap!
I agree.......

but Imake the point how you had in parts to rumours and only a few posts later I have you saying we are moving lock stock and barrel and Student Mullet asking questions about should Shels be let into the new Premier Division having 800 seats in Santry

You hear one thing and assume worst case senario every time.
just wait for news and then tell us all what you think. all else guess every possible senario so as you can claim you were right all along!

Wasnt so long ago Ollie was going to run off with the money and leave us with nothing. Do you not think we should be happy that he didnt (so far!!! )

As for your comment about not asking questions I cant answer for every shels fan out there??? who am I or you to say they have not asked questions....

240 posts on foot wont solve a feckin thing

[higgins]

I don't have any details other than to say that Santry has about 800 covered seats.

So when you asked about next season you added that part in yourself ?
So when you asked about 800 seats you assumed nothing would be done with santry

You like making stuff up ??

If it turns out your right you'll be delighted but would you not wait for some more facts?

[Student Mullet]

So when you asked about next season you added that part in yourself ?
So when you asked about 800 seats you assumed nothing would be done with santry

You like making stuff up ??

If it turns out your right you'll be delighted but would you not wait for some more facts?

I made nothing up. I asked you an honest question and you gave me an honest answer.

To answer your question, I am assuming that nothing will be done to Santry before next season because of the timing. I know nothing more on the move other than what's already placed in the public domain by Ollie Byrne and Fintan Cassidy and I never claimed to know any more.

[WeAreRovers]

but Imake the point how you had in parts to rumours and only a few posts later I have you saying we are moving lock stock and barrel and Student Mullet asking questions about should Shels be let into the new Premier Division having 800 seats in Santry

Eh, the Santry thing comes directly from Ollie's official mouthpiece and from the man himself on Newstalk. Surely that alone would have you up in arms? No? Oh well.

KOH

[Roverstillidie]

So when you asked about next season you added that part in yourself ?
So when you asked about 800 seats you assumed nothing would be done with santry

You like making stuff up ??

If it turns out your right you'll be delighted but would you not wait for some more facts?

you do know the first mention of santry was when Fintan Cassidy and the Oily himself announced you were going there?

you have painted your self into a corner and wont back down because of the clubs of other posters.

you have sold your right to tolka to pay day to day bills. fact. you are moving to a ground that you have no guarantees that will be brought up to scratch. fact. an unknown amount of your players are all out of contract a fortnight before the transfer window opens. fact.

but rather than acknoweldge these facts and ask how and why this situation got to this extreme point, you are blanket denying there is a problem and trying to score points.

are there any sensible shels posters that actually know whats happeneing rather than higgins making a collective fool put of you
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[NY Hoop]

ok higgins, yes/no answers.

did the players strike for 2 days last week due to non payment of monies owed?

is this money, or part of it, still due?

have you sold the lease to tolka park to a property consortium?

has this money been used for day to day expenditure at shels?

have the printers been paid?

has olly made any statement re the sale of tolka to the supporters?

are you moving to santry, a stadum with approx 5% of the seating capacity of tolka park?

seriously, where are the lies?

Wouldnt be arsed responding to this rainman. If they want to live in the clouds let them.

KOH

[Poor Student]

Shels posters are trying to get you to stop making stuff up on the basis of rumours.
Some of what on here the past two weeks is true and some is not.....

But sure keep adding to the fire if you like, I'll join in!

Anyone hear Ollie sold the bulbs in the floodlights to pay for a football for the game on Saturday ?

Higgins, with all due respect, you cannot expect people to only talk about things that have been confirmed officially by Shels or Ollie. No one has actually officially confirmed the wages thing nor has it been reported in the press (to the best of my knowledge) and we know that at least some degree of it is true. Shelbourne fans on here seem only to be in the mood of denial and ambiguous statements. If your club and fans aren't going to be forthcoming with information then why should people not be allowed to bring information to the board. It's your fault you don't seem to be countering any of it or not coming forward with info.

[higgins]

Eh, the Santry thing comes directly from Ollie's official mouthpiece and from the man himself on Newstalk. Surely that alone would have you up in arms? No? Oh well.

KOH

Up in arms we might be moving to santry ???
Sure Santry is the best option Ive heard in the past year!

even with its 800 seats

as for denying there was a problem !!
Who did that ???
I told you already everything was not ok. I told you I wouldnt run a club like that giving half a chance.

I also told you that some of what is posted is lies....

[higgins]

Higgins, with all due respect, you cannot expect people to only talk about things that have been confirmed officially by Shels or Ollie. No one has actually officially confirmed the wages thing nor has it been reported in the press (to the best of my knowledge) and we know that at least some degree of it is true. Shelbourne fans on here seem only to be in the mood of denial and ambiguous statements. If your club and fans aren't going to be forthcoming with information then why should people not be allowed to bring information to the board. It's your fault you don't seem to be countering any of it or not coming forward with info.

I dont fully know whats going on either, nobody but Ollie knows whats fully going on with Shels. what i have tried to do is point out where you lot have been wrong.

As soon as one rumour is finished another starts, its endless

Do you want me to agree with you that two players have walked out ???
I can if you want but Ive no knowledge to base it on so it would be foolish. I could say I heard from a guy who is close mates to a an ex EL player and as we all know the EL is a small place! Would that be enough for me to get on your side.

As for coming out with information myself ! I dont work for Shels and as I said I dont know the exact story so couldnt and wouldnt post it here even if I did.

[Roverstillidie]

I also told you that some of what is posted is lies....

for example? the rumour mill in relation to shels over the past few weeks has been remarkably accurate.

as NY says, you are doing a good rainman here.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Higgins what do you think of Shels moving into a 800 seater stadium? Do you think they should be aiming higher and move to a stadium with more seating capacity?

[Poor Student]

I dont fully know whats going on either, nobody but Ollie knows whats fully going on with Shels. what i have tried to do is point out where you lot have been wrong.

If you know as little as you say you do though then it doesn't explain why you're quick to deny a lot of things. If you're similarly in the lurch then you can't confirm or deny rumours with any certainty.

As soon as one rumour is finished another starts, its endless

You could put it down to a dislike of Shels or it could just be that there's that many weird things going on at your club.

Do you want me to agree with you that two players have walked out ???

I don't claim they have, I don't know.

I can if you want but Ive no knowledge to base it on so it would be foolish. I could say I heard from a guy who is close mates to a an ex EL player and as we all know the EL is a small place! Would that be enough for me to get on your side.

It's fair enough if you know something, I know very little myself, but you can't quash these rumours either if you know nothing, can you?

As for coming out with information myself ! I dont work for Shels and as I said I dont know the exact story so couldnt and wouldnt post it here even if I did.

Well there's the thing. It's fair enough and it's your prerogative and we all know you wouldn't tell us if you knew, so you're absence of info doesn't tell us how much you really know but as I say, for a man who knows nothing you're quick to deny and in your own words point out "lies".

[higgins]

Higgins what do you think of Shels moving into a 800 seater stadium? Do you think they should be aiming higher and move to a stadium with more seating capacity?

Well I think location wise it couldnt be much better but of course I would love to have more space around and own the stadium ourselves.

Its been clear enough these past few months that the money we get from the sale of Tolka wont fund a new ground even without the bridging loans rumours. It seems we need a helping hand same way as Rovers have out in Tallaght. Land prices are far too expensive now and without a donation of council land we would be in a position to build a stadium with the profits from Tolka.

The FAI want groundsharing and I wouldnt like to be stuck in Dalymount the home of Bohs, same as being stuck out in Richmond the home of Pats. I wouldnt like to go to Tallaght either!

When I hear Santry I would be very happy to move there. Even with its 800 seats at present. The land is big enough to hold a decent sized stadium without a running track.

Depending on the deal worked out from the sale of Tolka we could go there with cash in the pocket and a sharing scheme would allow us gain further funding from the FAI (if they stay true to their word).

Id take a move to Santry in the morning!!!

[Roverstillidie]

When I hear Santry I would be very happy to move there. Even with its 800 seats at present. The land is big enough to hold a decent sized stadium without a running track.!

there you go again rainman.

you reckon the running track goes do you? that clonliffe harriers are going to get the heave ho to suit you?

think before you post you jackass

[DmanDmythDledge]

But do you see it as lack of ambition moving into a stadium that only holds 800 seats?