QuoteHe's gone down in my estimation anyway.
Could someone tell me please when Martin O'Neill had a nationality transplant and became English....??
He's a sickening little turd..
He's gone down in my estimation anyway.
Well he did move to England for employment 35 years ago. It might be sickening that he couldn't pursue his football career in the Irish League or League of Ireland but that's hardly his fault is itOriginally Posted by joeSoap
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Come on Owls fan The panel were spot on last night. You can only comment on what you see. France were rubbish for 4 years and showed no signs of improving so they were rightly castigated for it. They had the team to do it but they did not seem to have the work or team ethic to do it. Dunphy and Giles showed many examples of this.
Just cause France suddenly turn it around does not mean Dunphy and Giles were wrong in what they said. I think Giles and Dunphy put that point across last night well. As Giles says you can only comment on what you see. In my view anybody that predicted that France would get to the final having seen their first 3 games would not know anything about football. Alll the signs were there that they would go out as they were not working or trying hard. Its possible that they were so up for the game due to the racist comments alleged to Aragones but who knows.
Barthez is a clown and last night he proved it but he has done this for Utd and France before. I think you are been picky by pointing out a slight contradiction when Dunphy says France have a great defence but also that the keeper is a clown. Its obvious that when he says they have a great defence he means Thuram and Gallas and Sagnol and the protection of Makelele.
Bill O Herlihy did exactly what you have been asking for and you are stll not happy.
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What was the discussion about whether Zidane should have teaken a run up to his penalty all about?
Irrespective of how long you live away from home, or where you have to go for employment, I feel you should always have pride in your own nation, and never refer to yourself as from another.Well he did move to England for employment 35 years ago. It might be sickening that he couldn't pursue his football career in the Irish League or League of Ireland but that's hardly his fault is it
When Shearer and Hansen spoke about the 'embarrassment' of losing to a 'third rate' nation like Northern Ireland and smugly apologised to Martin for the slight, he shrugged his shoulders and said nothing...WIMP !!
Hope that helps with your confusion.
O'Neill will end up like Lawro if he isn't careful. Shearer still thinks England have 9 world class players........ and how Hansen can make a joke about N Ireland is beyond me. The Scots are a shambles on the international scene.
Anybody hear Tydsley the other night going on about the English player in the Italian first 11? Somebody please shoot him!!!!
I didn't watch the after match analysis but are you saying you can't attack a team just because you put a bet on them? I don't mind you slating the RTE panel but you just pick points for the sake of it. I can only imagine the stick you'd be given Dunphy if he praised France just because he had a flutter on them.
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I can guarentee you if he was born in Ireland RTE would've done the same.
Had to laugh at Shearer's assessment of the England squad alright. Only "Henry, maybe, Makele, Canavarro and eh, eh, maybe Zidane" would get into the England side apparently. I thk what he mean to say was only Ashley Cole and Wayne Rooney would get near any of the other 4 teams (probably english centre halves for the germans but thats it IMO)
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He actually had the audacity to say that only three or four like Henry, etc...would make the England team from what he's seen in the world cup.
I'd say:
Goalkeepers:Buffon, Lehmann, Van Der Sar, Casillas, Canizares, Dida.
Defenders:Zambrotta, Cannovaro, Gallas, Thuram, Sagnol, Ricardo Carvalho, Ayala, Senderos,
Midfielders: Vieira, Makelele, Zidane, Ribery, Pirlo, Figo, Rodriguez, Riquelme, Maniche, Kaka, Cambiasso, Robben, Cristiano Ronaldo
Forwards: Klose, Totti, Ronaldo, Crespo, Podolski, Tevez, Messi, Torre, Raul, Reyes, Van Nistelrooy, Van Persie, Shevchenko, Toni, Adriano, Saviola, Robinho, Saha, Villa, Larsson.....
Theres 47 who would walk on to the English team off the top of my head, and there are literally hundreds more....Given, Duff, Robbie Keane, God don't get me started...
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Possibly because I wrote in to RTE asking them to put those comments to the panel but they omitted the bit where I quoted Dunphy as saying the manager hasn't a clue and I did predict elsewhere that Giles would say "I can only comment on what I see, Bill"That's not true. Just because a team plays badly, it doesn't mean it's a bad team, have a bad manager and there is strife in the camp. Dunphy was back saying he hasn't a clue - not bad for a team to get to a WC Final with a manager who hasn't a clue.
I am no fan of Bartez and he can be eccentric at times, but any high balls he came for he gathered well and the saves he had to make, he did well apart from that one abberation. Describing him as a "clown" is typical Dunphy ott just as sneeringly calling Beckham "Sir David" on a number of occasions. Anyway, Man U fans would be better able to comment on his ability than I but do we really need pejorative comments like "clown" to keep the ratings up ?
On the Martin O'Neill thing, I didn't see it. Unfortunately Norn Iron must be rated among the third world football community so it was fair comment about a United Kingdom team and what was Martin to say ? We're not third world when they are. I assume Hansen was having a go at England by mentioned the defeat by Norn Iron.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
was wathcing At The Races Stateside last night and they were talking about the world cup and the pundits on ITV and BBC.
Some guy from Dundalk wrote in about RTE pundits and quoted a few Dunphy classics like "Barthez is a clown" and when Crookes was interviewing Sven after England were knocked out he described it as "the closest two men have ever come to having sex on TV.They couldnt beleive this happens as they never heard a so called pundit ever speak their mind.
They were saying "thats the way it shoould be over here"
Cant believe you replied to me twice!Isn't your name is a contradiction in terms
Must have hit a nerve!!!
Make that 3 times! Why wouldn't I reply to you ? I reply to all NeillMc's stuff as well. It's fun.Cant believe you replied to me twice!
Must have hit a nerve!!!
The Stars - there's speaking your mind and then there's saying the first abusive thing that comes in to your mind. I assume you like Ian Wright then as well since he "speaks his mind" ?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I think the greatest thing about the RTE Panel is that they are willing to criticise teams that win matches. They look at performance and see does the team do the right things i.e. pass the ball well, keep possession, track back, defend well and continue to make runs off the ball and create space for one another. These are all basics of the game. Its possible to win one of matches not doing some of these but you will not wint a tournament unless you start doing it. France were not doing a lot of these things for a long time but started to do them against Brazil and Spain. Last night they went back to their old ways. I think RTE are good in that they dont get mislead by the result. Many stations would be full of praise for the French even though they gave a rubbish performance last night.
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3 times!!!!
You love replying to me!!!
Scotland have finished ahead of Ireland in the last 2 qualification campaigns. We finished 3rd and 4th and they finished 2nd and 3rd. Northern Irelands best finish was 4th.
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Well since you admit don't watch them, I am not sure how you know that. What they say is: poor performance but they're through to the World Cup FinalCup competitions are not about performances - it's about winning the trophy. Only grumpy old men like Giles and his adoring muppet beside him ignore the result and judge the performance only. We'd all love to see it being done with style but (cliche follows) at the end of the day, football is about results. Where now the flamboyant Spanish much adored by the panel ? Topping up their tans on the Costa del Sol.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I never said I did not watch other stations. I said I tried not to watch ITV. Its not about style its about doing the right thing and performing well. Most people in Ireland prefer RTEs coverage and their style. You dont so switch off.
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Also if we were to just look at results there would be no point in having experts in. The job of an expert is to explain how certain results have come about and why a team is losing or a team is winning etc. If the experts just went on results they could just read out the results at 5 o clock on a saturday or 10pm on a Friday night and say great performance there by Bohs cause they won 2-nil
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