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Thread: Ian Wright (and TV pundits in general)

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    Its disappointing to read all the negativity directed at the RTE panel by some people on this thread. We should be proud that we are able to compete with a much bigger broadcasting corporation with much more resources at their disposal and still provide a superior product. As one poster said if you dont like it switch it off.

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    Well said Bill, however, payment of licence fee allows one to moan and criticise in my book.....

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    Am not sure if much of your licence fee goes towards this. Surely advertising revenue during the World Cup would cover the cost of dunphy et al? am not sure if moaning is the way to go about it anyways.......you should go up to Pat Kennys house and take whatever takes your fancy...........you paid for it.......and got very little in return!

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    Ring Joe Duffy if you are not happy that gets things done in this country as far as I can see.
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    At work so didn't see the Tabloid Panel before the Ghana vs Brazil game. Did Drunkphy and Giles stick with their prediction made earlier in the week of a Ghana win ? If they did and Brazil win, wait to hear about the failings of Ghana and "they're just happy to be there".

    And for those of you who worship at the shrine of Laughing Bill, despite his inabilty to introduce balance or perspective, here's an interview of self praise you'll enjoy.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/worldcup/oherlihyb.html
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    "France are a shambles". "They are run by a clique of 4 or 5 of the senior players". "Their manager hasn't a clue". "Bartez is a joke". "Spain will stuff them. You can bet your house on it Bill". Giles or Laughing Bill did not question any of these statements and agreed with them. I recorded them in anticipation of the banana skin on the way.

    Just a few of the comments of our much beloved "expert" after the Togo game. Oh, I was sooooooooo disappointed that he wasn't around on the Panel last night to eat humble pie. History told us France would win that game. Spain the perennial flatterers to deceive and you could see the confidence coming back in to the French side after the Togo victory. All ignored but you expect that.

    Very enjoyable game
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    i think for entertainment purposes, rte should engage owlsfan as a pundit alongisde dunphy, and just let the rest of us sit back and watch the sparks fly

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    Andy Gray thought that goal sizes should be increased by a foot (height and width) because there hasn't been many 2nd round goals so far in the WC. And then comes along France-Spain last night. His reasoning behind this wisdom is that goalkeepers are much bigger nowadays.........

    His 2nd point on last nights Sky Sports News slot was that Zidane should be dropped from the team playing Spain.

    I just love it when the critics are shown up!!!

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    Lads I said this before, football makes a fool of people. Lots and lot sof people thought this French team were finished. They have not played wellfor about 4 years. Just cause they turn in a great performance out of the blue and Zidane plays well for the first time for France in ages does not mean the pundits are fools. On the evidence of the tournament so far Spain were the much better side than France. However Last night France were much better organised and much better at the back and thats what won the game for them.

    That and a little bit of cheating from Henry too.


    I am sure there are many people on these boards who dont think England will win against Portugal and that Beckham should be dropped. However if England win and Beckham plays well does that mean these people do not have clue about football. No I judge a pundit on what they say about a game once it has been played rather than what they say about a game that is about to be played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
    Andy Gray thought that goal sizes should be increased by a foot (height and width) because there hasn't been many 2nd round goals so far in the WC. And then comes along France-Spain last night. His reasoning behind this wisdom is that goalkeepers are much bigger nowadays.........

    His 2nd point on last nights Sky Sports News slot was that Zidane should be dropped from the team playing Spain.

    I just love it when the critics are shown up!!!
    He nevertheless predicted a French win .

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    I am sure there are many people on these boards who dont think England will win against Portugal and that Beckham should be dropped. However if England win and Beckham plays well does that mean these people do not have clue about football. No I judge a pundit on what they say about a game once it has been played rather than what they say about a game that is about to be played went on and predicted a French win - one of the few.
    I would say they haven't a clue about football if they keep misreading games, keep getting the predictions wrong and continue to make fools of themselves.

    If we follow your logic we shouldn't bother with the 30 minute intro and have them explain to us what happened - as if most of us can't see that already. It is interesting that Giles isn't as dogmatic when Drunkphy isn't at his shoulder. After the Togo game he agreed with everything the latter said about France. In the build up to the Spanish game, he was far more cautious and suggested Spain would win, just.

    Fair dues to Dinny - he voted against the other 3 in the studio and went for a France win. A break in the consensus at last.

    That has been my main problem with the RTE Panel over the years. Other than the Keane affair, Giles and DUnphy supported by O'H have sung from the same hymnn sheet almost without exception on Charlton, McCarthy, Liverpool (in the CL when they won it), the Premiership, you name it - always agreeing with each other. No balance, no contrary opinion.
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
    Andy Gray thought that goal sizes should be increased by a foot (height and width) because there hasn't been many 2nd round goals so far in the WC.
    Is he at this craic again? He said the same when Utd. went out to Volgograd or Vladikavkaz a few years back. The man is an utter clown.

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    He is just saying the goals should be slightly made bigger. He has a point in that through evolution people have got taller and talller. The dimensions of the goals were set out when the average height of a man was about 5ft 7 now it is pushing 6ft and for a keeper its about 6ft 2. So if they were to slightly alter the size it would be no bad thing.
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    In fairness, wou'd have to extend them by ten foot each way to accommodate the Ghanians....and Lampard.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadend
    In fairness, wou'd have to extend them by ten foot each way to accommodate the Ghanians....and Lampard.......
    very true. Hell even Gary Doherty has a chance of scoring if the goals are that big!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan
    He nevertheless predicted a French win .



    I would say they haven't a clue about football if they keep misreading games, keep getting the predictions wrong and continue to make fools of themselves.

    If we follow your logic we shouldn't bother with the 30 minute intro and have them explain to us what happened - as if most of us can't see that already. It is interesting that Giles isn't as dogmatic when Drunkphy isn't at his shoulder. After the Togo game he agreed with everything the latter said about France. In the build up to the Spanish game, he was far more cautious and suggested Spain would win, just.

    Fair dues to Dinny - he voted against the other 3 in the studio and went for a France win. A break in the consensus at last.

    That has been my main problem with the RTE Panel over the years. Other than the Keane affair, Giles and DUnphy supported by O'H have sung from the same hymnn sheet almost without exception on Charlton, McCarthy, Liverpool (in the CL when they won it), the Premiership, you name it - always agreeing with each other. No balance, no contrary opinion.

    I think you are right that it is good that Brady Souness Irwin are there to break it up but I do think that RTE did not invest much in the past. I am thinking that for Italia 90 they only really had Giles and Dunphy and possibly Shay Brennan at times not sure who else. OVer the last 5 years they have added Brady and a few others. They should keep Irwin in my view but I expect him to be Roy Keanes assistant or coach when he enters management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadend
    In fairness, wou'd have to extend them by ten foot each way to accommodate the Ghanians....and Lampard.......
    Didn't see the Ghanian game but Lampard's attempts have been awful so far but who knows ?
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Speaking of pundits....do those 2 American 'pundits' working for the Budweiser ads annoy the bejaysus out of anyone else, or is it just me??

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    They annoy me as much as the 3 ad. that is on every single ad. break

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    Yeah both of them wreck my head, I hate Bud anyway but even if I liked it I think I would give it up after this world cup. This is a terrible thing to say but somebody who drinks Budweiser goes down in my estimation. So far I have done ok using this ideology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD
    This is a terrible thing to say but somebody who drinks Budweiser goes down in my estimation. So far I have done ok using this ideology.
    I bet you have.......

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