Ian Wright (and TV pundits in general)

[LeixlipRed]

And as for Ian Wright's anticipated response? God help us...

I'd imagine it will be something like "If Sven hadda brought me son, Wrighty Junior, we wudve mashed those Argies. Innit!!!"

[Emmet]

Agree completely about the English coverage of the WC so far ... having said that once they've been knocked out we'll have the usual backlash directed towards some individual on a scale that beggars belief. Two years ago it was Urs Meier, 1998 was Beckham ... I wonder who will be this tournament's lucky winner / scapegoat!

Btw - Rodney Marsh is doing work for Talksport alright - it shouldn't come as a huge surprise though because that two-bob operation is run by Kelvin MacKensie who was the Editor of the sun newspaper in 1989 when they ran that 'story' about the Liverpool fans at Hillsborough just days after the disaster.

[stojkovic]

Stuart Hall - "AND HERE COME THE BELGIANS".

Legendary stuff.

[DmanDmythDledge]

I have never seen worse commentary from ITV in my life. Did anyone hear David Pleat when De Rossi was sent off? "If it was in the box it would be understandable." Absolutely disgraceful. And then in the second half, with the score at 1-1, USA have a goal dissalowed. When the ball initially hit the net Tyldesley shouts out "EQUALISER". What a gobsh!te.

Also during RTE's half time analysis, the legendary Bill O'Herlihy came out with another one of his gems. "Lets take a look at McBride's goal now." Brilliant.

[Dazzy]

Also during RTE's half time analysis, the legendary Bill O'Herlihy came out with another one of his gems. "Lets take a look at McBride's goal now." Brilliant.

What about all them FACTS at the end "THe FACT is Bill it was a penalty" did the Italians have a penalty! Giles is annoying all he can say was the fact is.

[Closed Account 2]

I have never seen worse commentary from ITV in my life. Did anyone hear David Pleat when De Rossi was sent off? "If it was in the box it would be understandable." Absolutely disgraceful. And then in the second half, with the score at 1-1, USA have a goal dissalowed. When the ball initially hit the net Tyldesley shouts out "EQUALISER". What a gobsh!te.

Heard that too mate, classic error by the commentator. Don't think it was Tylsdley though. He was commentating on the Ghana v Czech Rep. match - but twice he referred to the Czech Republic as "Poland". Clive clearly struggles to remember the names the countries... well 32 is a big number.

[Plastic Paddy]

twice he referred to the Czech Republic as "Poland". Clive clearly struggles to remember the names the countries... well 32 is a big number.

And when it's not Ingerlund or ManYoo Tyldesley is far away from his usual frames of reference, hence the permanent comparisons to things of familiarity ("Falkirk reserves", etc.). It's so parochial it hurts.

As for the twonk commentating in the YooEssEh game? It must have been Peter Drury. Think "Mini Me" from the Austin Powers films and you've got Drury in relation to Tyldesley. Slightly smaller and slightly less annoying. And that's the nicest thing I think I can say about him.

PP

[Soko]

Anyone see Wright laughing his ass off at the Korean goal - more directly at Desailly. Lucky Marcell is quite a cultured man or he'd halve hammered him. Even Lineker and Hansen were embarrassed at the hyena

[osgood was good]

Wright is an absolute disgrace and should be removed before somebody throws him one . Pleat has the most annoying voice on tv , Motty should step down and be replaced by Barry [the voice ] Davies , no doubt his intelligent commentry is badly missed . ITV just havnt a clue have they and Andy Townsend and McCoist are just car crash TV .

This from one of the Sunday papers....

Best wishes to Alan Shearer currently in a Berlin hospital having splinters removed from his arse after breaking the all-comers fence-sitting record .
.........Quality.

[jockser]

Anyone see Wright laughing his ass off at the Korean goal - more directly at Desailly. Lucky Marcell is quite a cultured man or he'd halve hammered him. Even Lineker and Hansen were embarrassed at the hyena

im missing all this over here in germany though

[OwlsFan]

Anyone see Wright laughing his ass off at the Korean goal - more directly at Desailly. Lucky Marcell is quite a cultured man or he'd halve hammered him. Even Lineker and Hansen were embarrassed at the hyena

Certainly far less offensive than the RTE panel and chairman scoffing and jeering at England after the T & T game.

Also Hamilton after South Korea draw with France "who would have believed it ?". Laughing Bill after the same game "who would have believed it ?".
Well, errr, anyone who knows anything about football, has seen France's performances since winning the World Cup and the performances of South Korea over the past 4 years would well believe it. These guys give the "minnows" no credit for their performances - it's always down to the failings of the "bigger" team. On the earlier game I thought Australia did very well to close Brazil down and give them no space and hit them on the counter - but negative RTE condemn Australia as a mediocre team and put all the failings down to Brazil because they haven't lived up to their (ther panel's) expectations. There was not a word of praise for Australia.

[tetsujin1979]

I think at the very least we can agree that though the RTE panel has its failings, it is still the least of many evils

[NeilMcD]

Australia are mediocre and RTE take look at nearly ever game with the view is there a potential winner amongst the teams. They are not really interested in the hard working journey men that is Australia. Owls fan if you hate RTE so much why dont you watch it.

In my view RTE are the best not because I agree with them but they give me something to agree or disagree with. That is the crucial difference between them and the British chanels. There is a lack of debate on the British chanels and they seem to forget also that they are broadcasting to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.


Barry Davies retried from the BBC because he said they had lost the sense that they were a British Broadcasting Corporation and not an English Broadcasting Corporation.

Martin O Neill is good, Hansen is overated but is good most of the time except when commenting on England. Dowie and Mc Carthy are not bad also on the BBC in my view.

On ITV Pleat and Beglin are ok but the rest of them are rubbish with the exception of Curbishly and Allardyce.

RTE can be like a broken record and Giles Irwin and Cunnigham need to disagree with Giles and Dunphy a bit more just like Brady does when he is on. I think Souness has been great and its clear his failings as a manager are down to his lack of man mangement skills in my view.

Giles has a very old fashioned view of the way the game should be played. 90% of what he says is correct but he does not take into account the way the modern game is played etc. His view about keeping possession and tracking back and working hard and following your man are all correct but on the subtle issues of the game I think he is possibly out of date. But still RTE are far and away the best because they actually talk about tactics.

[superfrank]

Maybe, just maybe, RTE are the best because they obviously don't have bias in this World Cup.

[NeilMcD]

I think even when Ireland are in the world Cup RTE are not guilty of been biased in favour of Ireland. I am sure there are people here who would argue that during 1990 and 1994 they were overly critical of ireland and the manager etc. So that is one thing that RTE Panel could not be guilty of. I though Kerr was top class on the panel in the last world cup and so was Gerry Armstrong.

[razor]

Whats the story with Bill O'Herlihy and his "Okey Doke"?

I'm hearing bits of stories about some big bet on the he will/won't say it during the World Cup.
Anyone any idea?

[Soko]

Certainly far less offensive than the RTE panel and chairman scoffing and jeering at England after the T & T game.

Also Hamilton after South Korea draw with France "who would have believed it ?". Laughing Bill after the same game "who would have believed it ?".
Well, errr, anyone who knows anything about football, has seen France's performances since winning the World Cup and the performances of South Korea over the past 4 years would well believe it. These guys give the "minnows" no credit for their performances - it's always down to the failings of the "bigger" team. On the earlier game I thought Australia did very well to close Brazil down and give them no space and hit them on the counter - but negative RTE condemn Australia as a mediocre team and put all the failings down to Brazil because they haven't lived up to their (ther panel's) expectations. There was not a word of praise for Australia.

RTE may be the most patronising analysts ever to hit the screen but Wright was a disgrace. Blatantly laughing his hole off 2 yards from Desailly after his team had conceded a late equaliser, this in post match analysis after time to calm down. It was cringe worthy and an embarrassment to the BBC to have that idiot working their presentation.

[PaulB]

Who is DJ Spoony? I dont normally judge a person by their name but this guy sounds like a fool

Works for 5-Live as far as i know. Presents 606 on Wednesdays and Saturdays when Alan green is not around. Big Liverpool fan apparanetly, but usually talks a bit of sense..

[OwlsFan]

Australia are mediocre and RTE take look at nearly ever game with the view is there a potential winner amongst the teams. They are not really interested in the hard working journey men that is Australia. Owls fan if you hate RTE so much why dont you watch it.

In my view RTE are the best not because I agree with them but they give me something to agree or disagree with. That is the crucial difference between them and the British chanels. There is a lack of debate on the British chanels and they seem to forget also that they are broadcasting to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. .

So do you think Australia's performance against Brazil was mediocre ? I thought they played really well, closed down Brazil and created some excellent chances. There was no praise for their performance. Why should RTE not be interested in the "hard working journey men that is Australia" if they put in a good performance? Is the World Cup only about Brazil and Argentina ?

There is no "debate" on RTE. It's just cynical criticism most of the time. And I haven't seen your response to the panel's reaction to the English game. If that was English TV about Ireland, there would have been national outrage in this country. Tabloid panelism (excuse the word) is what I'd call it.

I like Irwin, Cunningham, Souness and Giles who can talk a lot of sense but he's now just turning into a grumpy old man.

As for Wright laughing at South Korea equalising against France, Dunphy and the panel laughed at and ridiculed England and Sven - showed clippets and then scoffed and laughed at them. It was Ian Wrightism (another made up word) of the lowest order. Some would call it "debate".

Why do I watch RTE ?- I channel surf and try and catch them all. Same with commentaries. Houghton seems to have fallen in to the Andy Gray mode of "I'll spend the afternoon criticising the referee" and I was delighted when Giles supported the ref in the sending offs in the USA vs Italy game. The other two RTE commentators are good but Hamilton misses so much and always seems to think a goal lead is the end of things.

[OwlsFan]

Works for 5-Live as far as i know. Presents 606 on Wednesdays and Saturdays when Alan green is not around. Big Liverpool fan apparanetly, but usually talks a bit of sense..

The same ALan Green who said a few days ago "I am born in Northern Ireland and I can't understand how anyone from the UK is not supporting England". He must have led a very sheltered life in Northern Ireland.