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    Despite the negative aspects of his track record, this could be a good move by Galway, given the current climate. Having an enthusiastic Pat Dolan selling their future plans in front of Niall Quinn's committee may just tip the balance by giving them a slight edge over the likes of say, Bray and Limerick
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    in a few months he will be telling the public in the tabloids how the board they are killing his chances of winning the eufa cup by not giving him more money.. or as pat says " you have no vision.

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    Who do people think has wasted more money in their life-time.......Nick or Pat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
    Who do people think has wasted more money in their life-time.......Nick or Pat?
    Having listened to Dolan and Leeson, i'd have to say Leeson sounds far more reasoned and logical, grounded if you will. Just my opinion though.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    A lot of City fans (well internet City fans anyway) turned against him with little reason after he left but don't let that cloud peoples judgement.
    Until he was sacked, they all thought he was the greatest thing ever to happen to the club. Some of our fans turn on everyone, sure there were even people having a go at Rico less than two weeks ago.

    He brought us to within one game of winning the league and built a team which went on to win it the following year. He also gave us the best European run any Irish team had achieved up to that.
    So you should have no worries on the football side. He's no better or worse than Rico or Kenny and that is a good standard.

    It's off the field he will really bring major benefits though. He was instrumental in bring Nissan on board as our sponsors (biggest deal in Irish football) and unfortunately now that he's gone it appears they no longer want to renew their deal. Hopefully Brian Lennox can change their minds on that but the rumours are worrying.
    We were getting massive crowds at the time, the Cork public really bought into his Rebel Army, Dublin bias, us against the world kind of thing. His personality can draw the crowds.

    I'm sure he has his faults too (as I'm sure others will to point out in reply to this) but he'd be an asset to any club imo, whether as a team manager or commercial/PR manager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colm
    A lot of City fans (well internet City fans anyway) turned against him with little reason after he left but don't let that cloud peoples judgement.
    I'd say a large majority.
    People can judge for themselves asto whether it was little reason. However, I would definately advise gufct to LET the opinion of the majority cloud his judgement.
    About 9 people believe he was the greatest thing to happen to the club . . . . . . . strongly.


    We might be a fickle/passionate bunch.
    That doesn't mean I'm not entitled to change my mind on Dolan (who i was a great fan of and supported) and back Lennoxs decision.
    I'm sure Dodge thought he was the bees knees at one stage as did the Waterford fans.
    Best European run any side had achieved up to that? Really? 2 Inter-toto ties?
    Rebel Army was Brian Lennoxs creation (i think???).
    Dublin bias, us against the world thing.
    No better or worse than Richardson?
    Well, better or worse?
    Remember Dolan had superstars Doyle and Long for more than 10 or 11 games, wasn't having his players unsettled and didn't have the aforementioned "fans that turn on everyone" calling for his and the chairmans head outside the ground.
    No doubting Pat Dolans ability to bring attention to the club.
    GUFC just have to ask themselves is it worth it?
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    City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.

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    Dolan is passionate but was not in any way realistic about spending money, especially when it was other peoples, kinda like Leeson really. Lennox had to cut the cord and in doing do saved CCFC from ruin.
    Even after his sacking Pat hung around the club and the city like a bad smell.
    Then 2 of our better prospects left, accompanied by Pat, to a club where his twin brother is head of the academy, then he was gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo
    He has his sycophants no doubt who worship him like Smithers to Burns but they are the minority

    Quote Originally Posted by Colm
    A lot of City fans (well internet City fans anyway) turned against him with little reason after he left but don't let that cloud peoples judgement.
    Until he was sacked, they all thought he was the greatest thing ever to happen to the club.
    He certainly has both detractors and followers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risteard
    No doubting Pat Dolans ability to bring attention to the club.
    All publicity is good publicity, even if its bad !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    There's no such thing as bad publicity

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    Dolan is like a cult leader in the way he can command loyalty from supporters years after his departure.

    The whole dublin bias thing was ok for a while but got tiresome especially to city fans based in Dublin.
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    The whole "them against us" mentality doesn't work in a league as small as ours. All the clubs depend on each other to make this league a success.
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    My report on Pat Dolan.

    Pat Dolan works for Setanta Sports. The head of Setanta Sports is a Mr. Johnston or John Stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    Dolan is like a cult leader
    Little typo there pete.
    "Must you tell me all your secrets when it's hard enough to love you knowing nothing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuanaD
    There's no such thing as bad publicity
    Tell that to Gary Glitter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    Dolan is like a cult leader in the way he can command loyalty from supporters years after his departure.

    The whole dublin bias thing was ok for a while but got tiresome especially to city fans based in Dublin.
    Tiresome too for every other EL fan. Unfortunately Damien has caught the same bug...........


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    razor is right Cult was not the word you were looking for but close

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    /Pats fan

    When he was at the club i didnt like him much, he bought and played Marcus Hallows!!!

    His managerial cant be argued with, the 3 clubs he got playing.


    Off field this is where it gets clouded, at Pats we had missing funds which were invested in things that never came off and we struggled financially BUT the reason they didnt come off could be a lack of league winning and UEFA Cl money that another team got, it rightly left us in the **** and only now we may be coming out of it (altho im not too sure on that one, we have a lot of players).
    Had that gone our way would he still be with us in some role, would we have a stadium?? Things that will never be answered and tbh money wise theres far worse at the club now then him.


    At cork from the outside to me it seemed he wanted investing either Cork didnt back him or hadnt got the cash to back him, but he put bums on seats and built a league winning side. If i was Cork manager i would pull the republic of Cork thing too be madness not too. Again things unanswered would he have won the league last season??? Would Cork have a new shed by now due the income he brought???? The fact he was backed by the players in the training pitch incident says a lot too.

    Waterford footballing role he got the job done.

    If he takes over GUFC he will get them playing ball and increase the crowds and generate money....how can that be bad a thing??? Its not like they have millions to lose. Maybe he will answer some questions with a long term stay.


    Maybe it will end in heartbreak but **** me he won leagues for us and i enjoyed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdjaC
    Off field this is where it gets clouded, at Pats we had missing funds
    Yeah and funnilly enough he did VERY well out of Pats. Sorry but thats about as subtle as I can be on this...
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    In his column in the star today he says he hopes the next person to ring him to offer hm a job is someone from the GAA, co they're his kind of ppl....
    Article is about the eL taking a break for the WC while the GAA goes toe to toe with it.

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