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    Quote Originally Posted by sullanefc
    Exactly. I knew you'd come around to my way of thinking
    Ah right, so what your saying is the eL should just shut down ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    Ah right, so what your saying is the eL should just shut down ?
    I didn't say that. Explain how you jumped to that conclusion.

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    Well you said that all clubs in the eL with good support should only be aloud play in the premier division, yeah ?

    my point is that not single club in the eL has good support, and a rough average of between 3-4,000 is not good support, especially compared to other sports in the country (GAA, Celtic League)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    Well you said that all clubs in the eL with good support should only be aloud play in the premier division, yeah ?

    my point is that not single club in the eL has good support, and a rough average of between 3-4,000 is not good support, especially compared to other sports in the country (GAA, Celtic League)
    You are right. The support is not good. The point is, some teams have the potential for their support to grow. UCD and Dublin City do not. What I am saying is that only teams with large support potential should be allowed in.

    It seems that the FAI are doing this anyway at the end of the season and about time. What they should do then is close the door so that these clubs can't get in again.

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    So even if a team is not good enough on the pitch but they have a large fan base they should be aloud to play in the premier ?

    Now that's when our league would turnm into a fcuking joke !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    So even if a team is not good enough on the pitch but they have a large fan base they should be aloud to play in the premier ?
    The "on the pitch" stuff will sort itself out once the "off the field" stuff is sorted first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    Now that's when our league would turnm into a fcuking joke !
    It has worked in other sports.

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    Again i would disagree with you there, the on the field stuff does not always sort itself out. For example, and i'm not having ago at this club, But, Galway have a very nice support base, lovely little stadium and are an extremely well run club but they have'nt managed to sort the on the field stuff out, the same would go for a number of clubs.

    Clubs will only truely ever more fans and support as money is pumped into there clubs, the perfect example is Drogheda United. If only more local business men were willing to take a chance like this....... Thats when we could see our league and clubs really take giant steps forward, but by not letting clubs play in the premier division because of the number of fans they have is an absolute joke, and some what illgeal i would imagine.

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    Drogheda is not a good example. Drogheda is doing very well, has had success, is setting the early season pace..... and can't get 2000 for a home league game. And I know United park is a dump but thats not an excuse for less than 2000 going when the club has never won a league title.

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    Drogheda's gates have gone up since money was invested into the club and they started winning things

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    Noones denying that. My point is that its still not hitting 2000 and the team is doing nothing wrong.
    Roo your a Bray fan, I'm a Longford fan. Both clubs have woin 2 FAI cups. Does it make any difference to your current crowds? If my club was top we wouldn't get 2000 weekly either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maynard
    Not that it's worth knit-picking, there was no way that there was less than 100.
    I know a neutral who was at the game, on the Connaught St. side, perfect view of the stand and he says less than 100.

    DC are a fu ckin JOKE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    Clubs will only truely ever more fans and support as money is pumped into there clubs, the perfect example is Drogheda United. If only more local business men were willing to take a chance like this....... Thats when we could see our league and clubs really take giant steps forward, but by not letting clubs play in the premier division because of the number of fans they have is an absolute joke, and some what illgeal i would imagine.
    So you are saying that the way forward for this league is to have millionaire businessmen pump money in??? What happens when these guys dissappear?? What then?? Back to square 1? The only way this league is going to move forward is if all teams are self sustaining, and attractive to customers/fans. Having teams like UCD and Dublin City in the premier is not attractive to fans as attendances can prove.

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    From today's STAR:

    "Both sides are in this Division on merit and there's every chance they will be good enough on the pitch to stay there. But those detractors who would like to see the Dublin duo left out of a proposed new FAI Superleague will use last night's embarrassingly small attendance as their main argument. This did not feel like a Premier Division clash with neither side having a substantial support base to speak of. It's tough on the players and staff at both clubs."
    Who Cares?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raheny Red
    From today's STAR:
    at the end of the day, the league needs money to survive.

    How unearth are you going to attract any sponsors with a game that had the attendence of a game in the local park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    Noones denying that. My point is that its still not hitting 2000 and the team is doing nothing wrong.
    Roo your a Bray fan, I'm a Longford fan. Both clubs have woin 2 FAI cups. Does it make any difference to your current crowds? If my club was top we wouldn't get 2000 weekly either.
    If Bray were in the position of Say Drogheda, Shels, Cork or Derry were we are at the top of the table, very good players, half decent ground then yes we would be getting bigger crowds, thats a fact !

    The time we played DCFC in the 1st division to see who won the title, we brough 2000/2500 away fans to whitehall, we brough about 1000/1500 to our semi final up in drogheda last year.

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    UCD - DUBLIN CITY
    Somewhere for Demophobics to go and watch EL
    Think of the demophobics people
    Its where they have there meetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by sullanefc
    So you are saying that the way forward for this league is to have millionaire businessmen pump money in??? What happens when these guys dissappear?? What then?? Back to square 1? The only way this league is going to move forward is if all teams are self sustaining, and attractive to customers/fans. Having teams like UCD and Dublin City in the premier is not attractive to fans as attendances can prove.
    Well it could do no harm with millionare business pumping money into clubs, IF the money is used wisely then this is the way forward, then is they do pull out the club wont be in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    The time we played DCFC in the 1st division to see who won the title, we brough 2000/2500 away fans to whitehall, we brough about 1000/1500 to our semi final up in drogheda last year.
    Promotion decider & cup semi, hardly averge games.

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    I never said they were average games, the point i was making is that when we are doing well, we always get a much larger support. I was answering a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    If Bray were in the position of Say Drogheda, Shels, Cork or Derry were we are at the top of the table, very good players, half decent ground then yes we would be getting bigger crowds, thats a fact !

    The time we played DCFC in the 1st division to see who won the title, we brough 2000/2500 away fans to whitehall, we brough about 1000/1500 to our semi final up in drogheda last year.
    Roo Yes your crowd would go up, but week in week over 2000 people? Only Cork do that consistently (for Derry fans look back to the season before last). As for getting bigger crowds in the 1st, ask Sligo, 5000 to see them win 1st division title, less than half that for first home game in premier.

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