Afghan Hunger Strike

[Block G Raptor]

All systems are

Yes I agree but it is my opinion that our's is more susceptible to abuse than the Average.

[Dodge]

http://www.orac.ie/pdf/PDFStats/Mont...Statistics.pdf

You'll find the Irish stats at that link. One thing though, don't think all non nationals are asylum seekers, the vast, vast, vast mojority aren't.

Have the UK stats bookmarked (work thing) when I find them will post up

Yes I agree but it is my opinion that our's is more susceptible to abuse than the Average.

And the point I'm making is you have no idea of other sysytems (or indeed ours) so you have no basis for this apart from a couple of people you know...

[Block G Raptor]

Fair enough I dont know the ins and outs of this and I agree that the vast majority of non Irish people in this country are from accession states. I have no problems with any of them. I'll be honest if I may It is my opinion that a significant Minority if not the Majority of asylum seekers in Ireland chose here because its easier to Scam our Government than the Brits

[Dodge]

Fair enough I dont know the ins and outs of this and I agree that the vast majority of non Irish people in this country are from accession states.

Agree with who? Thats not the case at all.

I'll be honest if I may It is my opinion that a significant Minority if not the Majority of asylum seekers in Ireland chose here because its easier to Scam our Government than the Brits

But again you have no basis for this bar tabloid scaremongering. The British press say their's is the worst. Wonder what the French think?

[Block G Raptor]

But again you have no basis for this bar tabloid scaremongering. The British press say their's is the worst. Wonder what the French think?

Is it scaremongering?. maybee it's the Irish Inferiority complex but I honestly cant envision someone in Lagos deciding "I have to get out of this oppression. I think I'll go to Ireland" Cop on I doubt very much If there is a single Nigerian in this country that hasn't spent time living in the UK before coming here as word of mouth spreads as to how accomodating we are. I certainly havn't met any and through the course of my daily life I meet quite a few

[Bald Student]

I agree that the vast majority of non Irish people in this country are from accession states.

I would have thought that the British made up the biggest group of foreigners.

[NeilMcD]

I read a stat in the Irish Times not too long ago that the biggest majority of non national in Ireland were from the US, after than came the UK and after that it was Poland I think.

Yanks out Yanks Out. Only joking by the way.

I I certainly havn't met any and through the course of my daily life I meet quite a few

Does this sentence make sense.

[Bald Student]

Does this sentence make sense.

It does when taken in the context of the previous sentence in which he refers to two groups of people; Nigerians here who haven't been to the UK and all Nigerians here. When he said "I haven't mey any ... I've met quite a few" he was referring to two different groups of people.

[Dodge]

I honestly cant envision someone in Lagos deciding "I have to get out of this oppression. I think I'll go to Ireland" Cop on I doubt very much If there is a single Nigerian in this country that hasn't spent time living in the UK before coming here as word of mouth spreads as to how accomodating we are. I certainly havn't met any and through the course of my daily life I meet quite a few

Well they pay to go to Ireland so they go to Ireland. Not being funny but if you're going to tell me to cop on, you might wanna have a bit of a clue what you're talking about before you start thinking I don't. The VAST majority of Nigerians here (who as we know from the figures given to you are a small percentage overall) defintely do not live in the UK first. I worked 6 years in theat area. Trust me I know way more than you on this topic.

[dahamsta]

Just the facts ma'am. Drop the cop ons and the bit of a clues please, both of you.

[Lionel Ritchie]

I read a stat in the Irish Times not too long ago that the biggest majority of non national in Ireland were from the US, after than came the UK.

Though curiously I've not once heard an American or a Briton described as a "non-national" in any Irish media. Doubt they'd use it to describe a person from anywhere else in the English speaking world either (mmmmmmmmmmaybe South Africa).

It's like it's become a nudge-nudge, raise your eyebrows and nod all-knowingly thing.

[Marked Man]

Have to laugh at Bertie's tough talk on the importance of playing by the rules on immigration while having just pledged funding to the movement to help Irish illegals stay in America. Rank hypocrisy.

[anto1208]

does any one know why they will be killed if they go back to afganistan ??

anything to do with what they did there when they where part of the taliban . one was interviewed on the radio yesterday and when asked why they would be killed he refused to answer .


ive a feeling and its just my opinion but if nazi war criminals where on huger strike most would let them starve thats whats happening here .

[Condex]

Well they pay to go to Ireland so they go to Ireland. Not being funny but if you're going to tell me to cop on, you might wanna have a bit of a clue what you're talking about before you start thinking I don't. The VAST majority of Nigerians here (who as we know from the figures given to you are a small percentage overall) defintely do not live in the UK first. I worked 6 years in theat area. Trust me I know way more than you on this topic.

I live in London and would agree with the VAST majority of Nigerians do come to London first, as there is a large Nigerian community here. Are you trying to say that they go directly to Ireland, highly unlikely...

I remember a few weeks back standing in a queue in a bank behind a Nigerian, he was trying to open a bank account using an Irish driving license.

On the Afghan hunger strikers, you can't give in to blackmail....

[Dodge]

I live in London and would agree with the VAST majority of Nigerians do come to London first, as there is a large Nigerian community here. Are you trying to say that they go directly to Ireland, highly unlikely...

Not being funny but if you live in London, you'd have no clue about the Dublin situation. I do, and the vat majority of Nigerians here first settle in Ireland. Obviously not all but there you go...

[Ringo]

Gardaí have removed the Afghan hunger strikers from St Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0520/asylum.html

[Condex]

Not being funny but if you live in London, you'd have no clue about the Dublin situation. I do, and the vat majority of Nigerians here first settle in Ireland. Obviously not all but there you go...

OK, so you live in Dublin, do you know all these people personally...
Knowing quite a quite a few Nigerians (they admit corruption is rife in their country) myself they will go where ever they find easiest to get the necessary papers to travel onwards in the EU, if thats Ireland so be it..

On the Afghan hunger strike I must commend the government/gardai on how they handled situation... Over here you fly a hijacked plane into the country they´ll give the hijackers asylum

[Dodge]

OK, so you live in Dublin, do you know all these people personally...

Know some. Also worked in the area for 5 years

[trevy]

Well done to the Gardai for bringing this circus to a halt.You can't allow blackmail and threats to succeed and undermine the asylum process.How would the Afghans like it if a bunch of Christians took over one of their mosques in Afghanistan for a week for a protest.They wouldn't last long I'd say.

[Terry]

does any one know why they will be killed if they go back to afganistan ??

Theres a guy working with me that says that one of the Afgans is a wanted criminal in Afganistan for being a serial rapist (the death penalty awaits him). It was front page news on yesterdays Sunday Independent. Send him back, we should not be letting these people in our country.