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    Down memory lane with Roddy Doyle

    Found this article in the Observer dating back to Italia 90 (a great read if you've time):

    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/irela...586469,00.html

    Extracts I particularly like:

    "I was a Charlton man. I liked him; I loved the team - McGrath, Houghton, Bonner - they were all marvellous. They'd been dreadful on Sunday against Egypt, but so what?"

    "For me, Dunphy represented those miserable little fu*kers. That wasn't fair on Dunphy, but tough. I'd waited all my life to see Ireland in the World Cup. As far as I was concerned, Jack Charlton had got them there. He had style, humour; he was honest. Dunphy hated Charlton; Dunphy hated lots of things."
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Doyle's a tosser

    KOH

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    Owls fan you really do seem to have issues with Dunphy. He cant have that much of an effect on you thinking can he?
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    Dunphy's a tosser.

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    he's a stuttering goon that can't sting 2 words together. dunphy that is. a lot like staunton but then staunton isnt a di ck head
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    This was an interesting quote:

    Dunphy had said that he was ashamed to be Irish; he'd thrown his pen across the studio. He hadn't said that at all; what he'd said was that if Ireland were going to play like that all the time then he'd be ashamed to be Irish; he'd only thrown his pen on to the desk, hadn't really thrown it.
    I remember that. I was working at the Yacht on the Coast Road and I saw it live while rolling kegs out the back.

    Not a bad article.
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    Ive Goose Bumps and a lump in my throat reading that. Bring's Back some memories. roll on 2010

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    I actually read this piece every couple of weeks when I pick up the book 'My Favourite Year' in my local 'Chapters' here in Toronto on my lunch break. Always puts a little lump in the throat when I read it.

    There's also a really good peice from a Boro fan/writer in the book. Great read.
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    I was only 5 at the time but i remember every minute of it. makes me tearful i have to say. I remember waiting hours leaning against the green fence on the Drumcondra Road to see them go past. im so upset we're not in this world cup. the leaving cert ruined the last one. haha and i cried when schillaci scored. ah memories

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
    I was only 5 at the time but i remember every minute of it. makes me tearful i have to say. I remember waiting hours leaning against the green fence on the Drumcondra Road to see them go past. im so upset we're not in this world cup. the leaving cert ruined the last one. haha and i cried when schillaci scored. ah memories
    Memories is right... you can remember when you were 5? I can hardly remember anything before the age of 12.

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    that book was full of guys who followed garbage sides up and down england and beyond, blood sweat and tears.

    roddy sat in a pub watching the WC and he is an authority? he represents all that is wrong with the ole ole brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
    that book was full of guys who followed garbage sides up and down england and beyond, blood sweat and tears.

    roddy sat in a pub watching the WC and he is an authority? he represents all that is wrong with the ole ole brigade.
    No, he doesn't. He didn't have the money to follow Ireland. Ireland in 1990 was a lot different than the Ireland of 2006. The disposable income just wasn't there. Unemployment was significant and no-one had heard even a meow from the Celtic Tiger. He was actually doing the responsible thing for his wife and family. He was a school-teacher after all.

    I remember watching the Romania games with my Granddad in Raheny. He died in December of 2005
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY Hoop
    Doyle's a tosser

    KOH
    What about Dunphy? He dissed the League of Ireland in the Sunday World for years. Disses it every chance he gets in other outlets. Wanted to bring Wimbledon to Dublin and backed Kilcoyne? If that doesn't make him a tosser I don't know what does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD
    Owls fan you really do seem to have issues with Dunphy. He cant have that much of an effect on you thinking can he?
    The poison dwarf started his campaign against everything I loved in Irish football by attacking Liam Brady when he was a player for not putting it in when he played for Ireland.

    He then continued with a virulent personal and tabloidish campaign, aided by Laughing Bill, against Jack Charlton whom I'll never be able to thank enough for what he did for Ireland and Sheffied Wednesday.

    He openly supported the Kilcoynes in the sale of Milltown where I spent many many Sundays over decades supporting the Hoops.

    Because his mate Joe Kinnear didn't get the Irish job, he launched into personal and tabloidish attacks on Mick McCarthy and did his best to undermine him.

    I was on the opposite side to him on the Saipan affair.

    WHy should I have an issue with him ?
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Pedantic I know, but this is an extract from the article:

    Packie Bonner dived to the left and saved Romania's last penalty. He dived to the left and parried the ball and got up quickly and jumped into the air, his arms up, one leg slightly lifted. I was in the air too. It was unbelievable. - He's saved it!

    He wrote the same in The Van.


    He dived to the RIGHT!! OK, so he dived to the left of the telly screen but nobody ever describes it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergie's Son
    No, he doesn't. He didn't have the money to follow Ireland. Ireland in 1990 was a lot different than the Ireland of 2006. The disposable income just wasn't there. Unemployment was significant and no-one had heard even a meow from the Celtic Tiger. He was actually doing the responsible thing for his wife and family. He was a school-teacher after all.

    I remember watching the Romania games with my Granddad in Raheny. He died in December of 2005
    Eh a lot of us who were there in Italy werent exactly loaded either. RTID is spot on. He does represent the morons you saw cheering on one english team against another on saturday. Christ one of the lads was in kilkenny and these idiots were buying champagne because an english team beat another one.

    Anyone ever see doyle on Fantasy Football? Idiot.

    CTID the thread is about doyle. What Owlsfan says about dummy is spot on. The guy's a joke.


    KOH

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    For me the WC experience is different to all people and you don't have to be a die hard, travelling to games to be a part of it in the true sense.

    My mum could name about one player on the Irish team, but during '94 and '02 she'd quite happily wear a green shirt and watch the matches at home and enjoy the whole experience of it all. This happens to Irish people the world over in pubs, homes, internet cafe's or at the games themselves. Each takes part in whatever way they see fit to enjoy the occasion.

    For me, whats wrong with fans is not this approach but the amount of tossers banging on about 'barstoolers' EPL, SPL supporters 'never been to agame in their life' blah blah blah.

    World Cups are just about having the craic and hoping above hope that your team can pull off the impossible......
    I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior
    World Cups are just about having the craic and hoping above hope that your team can pull off the impossible......
    The other way round for me.
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan
    The other way round for me.
    It wasn't meant to be in any particular order.
    I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?

    "No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY Hoop
    Eh a lot of us who were there in Italy werent exactly loaded either. RTID is spot on. He does represent the morons you saw cheering on one english team against another on saturday. Christ one of the lads was in kilkenny and these idiots were buying champagne because an english team beat another one.
    So a lot of people were irresponsible and spent money that they didn't have? That doesn't make you more of a fan. It makes you more of a risk-taker. Two different things.

    Now you're creating a different argument. Fact is, a country like Ireland is always going to look to the larger sporting leagues of England for entertainment. There is a natural affinity to the big English clubs because they are culturally similar to ourselves. Not saying it's right or wrong but to ignore the powerful pull of the English leagues is misguided. It isn't fair to criticize how someone else gets their jollies. Buying champange for an English is, imho, over the top but then each to their own.
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