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    What apparent football fans here dismiss the eL so easily it shows the ignorance & what clubs up & down this country are up against. Saying that an eL club has to make the CL 1/4 final to be taken seriously is ludicrous. What next, raise the bar to the semi final?

    As mentioned above the Norwegians block the sale of young underage players abroad before their 18th birthday. It is legal for them & doesn't seem to be doing any harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
    You have a point, though I have to say that it did no harm to Kinsella and Finnan.
    The latter of whom was merely born in Ireland and is to all intents and purposes a product of the English system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    As mentioned above the Norwegians block the sale of young underage players abroad before their 18th birthday. It is legal for them & doesn't seem to be doing any harm.
    Don't think this would be possible for us to do. Seen as were part of the EU means we can't restrict the movement of workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Dreamin
    HAve you heard of freedom of speech / right to travel etc, etc.
    I don't really feel like pedantry today, but freedom of speech has nothing whatsoever to do with free movement of labour within the EU.

    The only people who could institute something like this would be FIFA, and they'd have to do it to everyone. "Thou shalt not field a player not eligiable to play for your FA unless he is over 18" - or something in that ballpark. They're moving towards that by forcing clubs to have more domestic talent - which will reduce imports eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    What apparent football fans here dismiss the eL so easily it shows the ignorance & what clubs up & down this country are up against. Saying that an eL club has to make the CL 1/4 final to be taken seriously is ludicrous. What next, raise the bar to the semi final?

    As mentioned above the Norwegians block the sale of young underage players abroad before their 18th birthday. It is legal for them & doesn't seem to be doing any harm.

    You have misinterpereted my quote, it is the view of the majority of Irish people, not my view, and if I had a son in that postition I would do everything I could to prevent him going abroad till he was at least finished school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by $Leon$
    Don't think this would be possible for us to do. Seen as were part of the EU means we can't restrict the movement of workers.
    you can easily restrict the movement of child workers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    The latter of whom was merely born in Ireland and is to all intents and purposes a product of the English system.

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    But nonetheless demonstrates that you can drop down a few divisions and climb back up again and even win European cup and an FA cup medals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
    you can easily restrict the movement of child workers....

    You cant, only the parents can, you can limit the hours they work. Another problem is a UEFA or FIFA rule ( dont know which) which states that kids can not play for a club that is more than 90 minutes travelling from their home. This law can be enforced in a juridisdiction but not internationally and once the kid signs for say utd they move close to the training ground, but utd cant sign an english kid from say newcastle!!

    Anyway the reality is until the vast majority of parents believe it's in the kids interest to stay in Ireland till 18 or whatever age it wont happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
    But nonetheless demonstrates that you can drop down a few divisions and climb back up again and even win European cup and an FA cup medals.
    He (Finnan) started at the bottom; at Welling United, then of the Conference. Thence to Notts County, Birmingham, Fulham and you know the rest. No dropping down (well, none for which he was responsible). In fact, as the story goes, he even entertained notions of an England call-up before the green carpet was rolled out. Who'd have thunk it, eh...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Dreamin
    You cant, only the parents can, you can limit the hours they work. Another problem is a UEFA or FIFA rule ( dont know which) which states that kids can not play for a club that is more than 90 minutes travelling from their home. This law can be enforced in a juridisdiction but not internationally and once the kid signs for say utd they move close to the training ground, but utd cant sign an english kid from say newcastle!!

    Anyway the reality is until the vast majority of parents believe it's in the kids interest to stay in Ireland till 18 or whatever age it wont happen.

    says who? name one other country that allows it to happen? seriously!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
    says who? name one other country that allows it to happen? seriously!
    You mean other than England?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John83
    You mean other than England?
    13 year old english kids leave the country to go where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
    says who? name one other country that allows it to happen? seriously!
    How many kids are on the books of the premiership clubs under the age of 18 and what is the break down of their nationalities? I would be pretty sure that a high percentage are not english and that there are plenty of other nationalites apart from Irish. Does anyone know the answer?

    Also id love to know what the situation is on Italy, Spain Germany and France?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
    13 year old english kids leave the country to go where?
    They don't have to leave the country. A English kid can be in England and still be further from home than an Irish kid in, say, Liverpool.

    Besides you highlighted the line, "This law can be enforced in a juridisdiction but not internationally," so I assumed you meant which country refused to let a kid move elsewhere to join a club.
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