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    National Anthem

    I see they have just played the Irish national anthem before the Setanta Cup Final. Now as it is two southern teams I personally do not have a problem with it but I wonder will we hear the same complaints regarding this that we did towards Linfield supporters singing God Save The Queen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    I see they have just played the Irish national anthem before the Setanta Cup Final. Now as it is two southern teams I personally do not have a problem with it but I wonder will we hear the same complaints regarding this that we did towards Linfield supporters singing God Save The Queen?
    I certainly wouldn't have any problem David - as long as we don't have another Ireland's Call - yuk.

    Personally, national anthems bore me senseless - at least if the UK and Rep. of Ireland had a nice lively one like the Italian national anthem, it might be bearable.

    Remember Billy Connolly's skit on national anthems.

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    That's a bizarre decision and a wrong one in my opinion. You didn't hear the Italian national anthem played before Milan and Juve in the European Cup final when they met. There should be no national anthems played in a cross border competition. Why did they do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    Now as it is two southern teams I personally do not have a problem with it but I wonder will we hear the same complaints regarding this that we did towards Linfield supporters singing God Save The Queen?
    Yes, from me you will anyway. Total disgrace. Feck off Soldiers Song like.
    Makes no sense at all.
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    I don`t see the need to play it either, but I can`t see its relevance to Linfield as
    a) they weren't playing; and
    b) playing it before the game has nothing to do with fans singing it during a match.

    Personally I`ve no problem with people singing GSTQ or that other amusing throwback to the Empire, Rule Brittania.

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    SHOCK HORROR

    They played the Irish national anthem at a match between two Irish teams in Ireland

    Where did they get a crazy idea like that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    SHOCK HORROR

    They played the Irish national anthem at a match between two Irish teams in Ireland

    Where did they get a crazy idea like that..
    Come on Eire 06, don't try to put up a specious argument like that. It doesn't belong in the context of an international cross border competition. In soccer national anthems are reserved for national teams and national cup finals. I wouldn't expect to hear Amhrán na bhFiann at a Setanta final between two Southern teams anymore than I would expect to hear God Save the Queen at a match between Linfield and Glens. Not to mention the confusion it throws up if say Linfield met Cliftonville in a final. It's an awful can of worms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Student
    Come on Eire 06, don't try to put up a specious argument like that. It doesn't belong in the context of an international cross border competition. In soccer national anthems are reserved for national teams and national cup finals. I wouldn't expect to hear Amhrán na bhFiann at a Setanta final between two Southern teams anymore than I would expect to hear God Save the Queen at a match between Linfield and Glens. Not to mention the confusion it throws up if say Linfield met Cliftonville in a final. It's an awful can of worms.
    I just think people are making too big a deal of it..The Anthem was played get over it!
    Ya if Cork were playing Linfield there prob wouldn't be any Anthems true because it would only cause trouble. But it wasn't Linfield it was 2 Rep of Ireland teams so therefore it was perfectly acceptable to play it if they wanted to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    I just think people are making too big a deal of it..The Anthem was played get over it!
    Ya if Cork were playing Linfield there prob wouldn't be any Anthems true because it would only cause trouble. But it wasn't Linfield it was 2 Rep of Ireland teams so therefore it was perfectly acceptable to play it if they wanted to
    No. It just doesn't work like that. When two clubs from the same country meet in an international tournament their national anthem is not played and this is not the GAA, we don't play the anthem at every game. The national anthem has no place in the Setanta Cup final. Given the politicial sensitivities involved in a cross border competition this just reinforces the fact that it shouldn't have been played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Student
    The national anthem has no place in the Setanta Cup final. .
    Exactly

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    Another thing I'd love to see gone is that pseudo-Classical sh!te before Champions League matches.
    Too much faux-gravitas before games now anyway.
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    What an awful decision. Lot of ifs and buts here but if they play the national anthem of the two finalists then there would have been some craic had we reached the final. Why complicate the event with an anthem, wonder who made the call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speranza
    What an awful decision. Lot of ifs and buts here but if they play the national anthem of the two finalists then there would have been some craic had we reached the final. Why complicate the event with an anthem, wonder who made the call.
    I was very surprised, I have to be honest but not at all offended. The only time would be offended is if we were involved and it was played without GSTQ being given the same recognition. To be totally honest I started the thread a bit tongue in cheek. I actually thought better of it and tried to delete it after I posted it in case it started a lot of political nonsense but was unable to do so. Basically though was trying to point out that I take no offence whatsoever at it so I do not see why people should have a problem with Linfield fans singing GSTQ.

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    It was a mistake to play the National Anthem at the final. One community is not a guest in the other's competition. Telling someone to just "get over it" is a nonsense reply. All these little acts can serve as social markers. What if some folk from the North were enjoying the competition so much, they decided to take in the final? I went to a Belfast Giants ice hockey game recently, and was relieved to find no Anthems sung beforehand, which is contrary to that sports protocol. This has resulted in the team belonging to the city, and not one community or the other. Go to a few sporting events in the US, where they play their National Anthem every time, and you'll soon wonder what's the point? Having said all that, I do miss the National Anthem and the crashing waves on television at the end of the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    I see they have just played the Irish national anthem before the Setanta Cup Final. Now as it is two southern teams I personally do not have a problem with it but I wonder will we hear the same complaints regarding this that we did towards Linfield supporters singing God Save The Queen?
    Thought it was fcuking stupid myself - couldnt give a sh!te either way, but just didnt see the point of it (but each to their own and all thta)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    SHOCK HORROR

    They played the Irish national anthem at a match between two Irish teams in Ireland

    Where did they get a crazy idea like that..
    They don't play it a League games, why play it at the final of a cross-border competition? National anthems are never played at European club matches, nor should they be.
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    They haved played it at league games. Whats the big deal? As long as they play it for both countries next time both are represented
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    Well it shouldn't have been played tonight. It was an cross border comp and sensitive issues like these should be taken into account. However, the anthem is played at the FAI cup final and should probably be played at every round of the FAI cup IMO. Take pride in the anthem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Risteard
    Total disgrace. Feck off Soldiers Song like.
    As for this post?? All I can say is.. What kind of an @sshole are you?? Its your anthem FFS. Take pride in it. And to say feck off to it is a disgrace. I can only hope you were being sarcastic or drunk.

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    With all the for and against nobody has mentioned the fact that tv viewers only heard about half of it due to the fact that Mr Idiot on the pitchside continued to interview after it started! Only the fact that Paul Doolin stopped talking Setanta were saved from total embarassment

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