England World Cup discussion

**superfrank** · 15/02/2006, 10:56 AM

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**The Legend** · 15/02/2006, 11:28 PM

So, this is for english people/fans living in Ireland?

**superfrank** · 16/02/2006, 9:27 AM

This thread is for anybody who wants to talk sensibly about the English football team.

**Soper** · 20/02/2006, 4:10 PM

Who do you all think should be in the final squad?

**gustavo** · 20/02/2006, 4:30 PM

robinson
james
green

carragher
ferdinand
campbell
terry
woodgate
neville
cole
bridge

king
beckham
gerrard
lampard
cole
parker
carrick
hargreaves

owen
rooney
defoe
crouch

will there be a similar thread about brazil ,italy germany etc?

**superfrank** · 21/02/2006, 4:07 PM

Originally Posted by gustavo

will there be a similar thread about brazil ,italy germany etc?

No cos people don't have personal problems with Brazilian, Italian or German history. I think it's very clear why this has to be done. There is no chance that people will bring their political opinions into a football discussion about those countries.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 23/02/2006, 4:06 PM

I think England will win the World Cup. Owen and Rooney up front, Beckham performing near his best again this season and a solid back line. Also, team spirit will be high after the Eriksson shenanagins.

**raytown red** · 23/02/2006, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge

I think England will win the World Cup. Owen and Rooney up front, Beckham performing near his best again this season and a solid back line. Also, team spirit will be high after the Eriksson shenanagins.

Think you could be definately right, as there no top country playin well at the moment. if they get their left side problem sorted!! i think wright philips should be given a chance. wat does everybody else think?

**DmanDmythDledge** · 23/02/2006, 7:53 PM

I don't think so. Has barely played for Chelsea this season. It's a shame because Mourinho has ruined his chances. If the World Cup was last summer he would have been in the starting XI no bother, but now he's struggling to make the squad.

**superfrank** · 24/02/2006, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge

I don't think so. Has barely played for Chelsea this season. It's a shame because Mourinho has ruined his chances. If the World Cup was last summer he would have been in the starting XI no bother, but now he's struggling to make the squad.

I agree. As a Chelsea fan, I was really excited about SWP joining and despite playing well when he gets his chance, I don't think he's good enough to play week in, week out in a full strength Chelsea team.

He was a big fish at Man City but now he's in a bigger goldfish bowl. He's more of an individual rather than a team-player, imo.

**Stuttgart88** · 01/03/2006, 3:44 PM

I'm worried this year. I think they could win it.

But from what I read in the Times this morning Paraguay might be tougher than they think, and T&T got a win last night. Will watch highlights of Wales vs Paraguay later from two points of interest.

**superfrank** · 01/03/2006, 5:53 PM

The England-Uruguay match is live on BBC tonight at 7.55pm, for those interested.

**renovater** · 01/03/2006, 10:37 PM

After to night game it would be true to say that Chelsea Boy Joe Cole has got the thumbs up to play left side were England seem to be having a problem to fill.
He has got the suport from his manager and named Man of the match And saved English Blushes
By the way Frank S.W.P plays on the right side Josie feels he down the pecking order.However you could have said the same about D duff Who got Man Of the Match for Ireland Joe Cole took a leaf out of the Duffer book and he flying so may be will give josie a chance because I believe Sean will turn good yet.
Just May be Next Tuesday his night.
So we will wait and See.
Good luck to England in the world Cup As our country Cusions which we have alot in common We should lend a hand as we do every other sat, following there
Clubs. I have no doubt they will make a last 4. Who no they even might win it.

**padzer** · 02/03/2006, 1:54 PM

They havent got a hope of winning the World Cup. Not with that stockin Rio Ferdinand in the team. Did anyone see him last night? He must have ballsed things up at least 4 times. He is so over-rated its unbelievable. Carragher should get the nod ahead of him. And as for Beckham, forget about him, he cant take on a player or tackle for that matter. Last night his so called "expertise" in crossing the ball failed him aswell. Captain fantastic? I dont think so. He should have got a red card for that tackle from behind, could have done some serious damage to the Uruguayan midfielder. Wright-Phillips did alright when he came on, at least he has some pace and took on the left full every time he could, and he set up the winner. I know it was a friendly and "you cant read too much into these games" but the players on the pitch are playing for a place in the first team not just a seat on the plane to Germany.

They are 6/1 second favourites with Paddypower. Might as well make that 100/1.

**Terry** · 13/04/2006, 2:51 PM

I would have matthew etherington on the squad. Has played all but 1 (i think) league games for west ham down the left this season, and has done a brilliant job at it too.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 13/04/2006, 5:14 PM

Originally Posted by Terry

I would have matthew etherington on the squad. Has played all but 1 (i think) league games for west ham down the left this season, and has done a brilliant job at it too.

He is an excellent player and a definie future England international, imo, but I think at this moment in time there are better options available.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 14/04/2006, 1:16 PM

I think England squad should look like this:

GOALKEEPERS

Paul Robinson
David James
Robert Green

DEFENDERS

Gary Neville
Rio Ferdinand
John Terry
Ashley Cole
Jamie Carragher
Wayne Bridge
Sol Campbell

MIDFIELDERS

David Beckham
Frank Lampard
Steven Gerrard
Joe Cole
Kevin Nolan
Shaun Wright-Phillips
Stuart Downing
Ledley King

STRIKERS

Michael Owen
Wayne Rooney
Darren Bent
Peter Crouch
Jermain Defoe

**jebus** · 15/04/2006, 12:38 PM

My England XI

GK: Robinson
RB: G. Neville
LB: Bridge
CB: Carragher
CB: Terry
RM: Gerrard
LM: A.Cole
CM: Lampard
CM: Parker
S: Rooney
S: Owen

I know this is assuming that all players are match fit, but thats the side I'd go with if I were England manager. I think England are going to lose it because of Eriksson's inability to see past his 'chosen ones'.

Seriously Beckham hasnt performed in an England shirt in four years and I think its pretty obvious that Rooney doesn't respect him as captain, and I'd be willing to wager that the likes of Gerrard, Terry and Carragher don't either.
I'd put Gerrard out there to spread the ball around, and so leaving Lampard to get forward as much as possible, with Scott Parker cleaning up behind him. I chose Ashley Cole on the left for three reasons. He has pace and can cross a ball, so he has the ability, and I don't think Joe Cole is up to scratch against top class players.

In defence then I'd have Wayne Bridge in there so I could him interchange with Ashley Cole going up the wing, with the other dropping back to defend. And I'd drop that lame duck Rio Ferdinand altogether, probably even from the squad, and throw the MUCH better and more versatile Jamie Carragher in to partner Terry. Since Beckham is out of the team I'd have to pick a new captain and I'd just about go with Gerrard over Terry, although either would be a good fit

**stojkovic** · 15/04/2006, 1:30 PM

jebus,
Agree with you on Ferdinand. Not only do I not rate him but I think that Terry needs a partner like Carvalho/Gallas and the only Englishman who fits the bill is Carra. Don't agree about Beckham. I agree he's muck but Sven won't drop his captain as Goldenballs picks the team.

England will do ok - Quarters at least maybe semis depending on the quality of opposition. Their starting XI is good but the back up is not. LF is a problem as both Ashley and Bridge are injured or will not be 100% match fit. Same applies to Owen - who is 3rd choice Crouch/Bent.

The midfield quartet of Becks/Stevie/Lamps and Joe Cole is unbalanced. Cole is right footed and Becks will drift into the middle like he did in '04. Stevie G and Lamps (whats he done recently though) are both quality but are two alike. All four are attack minded with no holding player. Most obvious player to lose out would be Becks with Gerard on the right and someone like Kevin Nolan in the middle as per your team. But Sven wont drop Beckham.

Commentators are comparing them to the 66 team with the 3 Chelsea players being compared to the 3 West Ham players of '66.

Also Liverpool are European Champions and Arsenal are in the Semis this year. HOW MANY ENGLISH PLAYERS PLAYED IN THOSE GAMES ?

Just hope it's a good tourny unlike '02 and '04.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 15/04/2006, 1:48 PM

Don't think Beckham should be dropped. The reason, I think, for his poor England performances was that he was playing in the middle of the park for Real. He has being playing excellent for them this season on the right and I think he performance for England will improve this summer.

Originally Posted by stojkovic

who is 3rd choice Crouch/Bent.

I think it should depend on who is unavailable. If Owen can't play, then Bent should come in, although he hasn't proven himself against top defences(2 goals against top 6). If Rooney can't play then Crouch would be the obvious replacement to play with Owen, which worked well in the US last summer.