England World Cup discussion

**Roadend** · 16/06/2006, 9:20 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

England will be hard to score against & I'd always bet on them to get a goal.

You know I thought that too, but after these last two games I'm beginning to think a decent team could put 2/3 past them. T+T yesterday had 2/3 counterattacking moves in the 2nd half but due to the fact that one man was trying to do it all with no support coupled with a touch to much being taken, they got back to defend. A better team will definitely punish them.

**shakermaker1982** · 16/06/2006, 9:32 AM

I think their defence will concede goals against the top sides. They often switch off (Cole, Neville and Ferdinand being the worst culprits). Terry lacks pace and their GK is suspect as well. Italy on the otherhand........now that is what I call a defence.

**drinkfeckarse** · 16/06/2006, 9:57 AM

Originally Posted by liam88

I know it was a bad performance......but that just made the celebrations so much better........had an amazing time about 5 of us drapped in England flags singing down the street with someone on my shoulders and everyone beeping their horn at us......brilliant

I know you live in England Liam but are you not Irish??

**liam88** · 16/06/2006, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

I know you live in England Liam but are you not Irish??

Indeed-I am half Irish half Burmese. My reasons for supporting England are:

-Neither Ireland or Burma (or the Vatican!) have qualified (I wouldn't actually support the Burmese team as things stand but that is for another thread....)

-I have grown up in England, I live here, most of my friends are English and my girlfriend is English

-Perhaps most importantly: England gave a home to my family when they escaped from Burma. It wasn't easy but they were able to make themselves in England and for that we've got to be greatful to the country.

So yea, I'm proud to be half Irish half Burmese, I'd never hide the fact I don't have a drop of English blood in me and I'm proud of my countries but I feel its only right to support the coutnry I live in and that has given so much to my family.

That said when Ireland do qualify they are the team I follow with a passion and if Ireland palyed England I'd be cheering on Ireland louder than anyone/

**eirebhoy** · 16/06/2006, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by liam88

I know it was a bad performance......but that just made the celebrations so much better........

eh, ok.

**liam88** · 16/06/2006, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

eh, ok.

what I mean is if it was a 5-0 walkover your don't quite have the same level of cheering and jumping around as if it's 0-0 till the second half then you get one and then another in inury time to seal it.

Only natural that theres mroe celebrating after winning a fairly contested match than after winning a walkover.

England do need to sort it out for the knock out stages but I reckon they will

**drinkfeckarse** · 16/06/2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by liam88

-I have grown up in England, I live here, most of my friends are English and my girlfriend is English

-Perhaps most importantly: England gave a home to my family when they escaped from Burma. It wasn't easy but they were able to make themselves in England and for that we've got to be greatful to the country.

Aye fair enough, was just curious like.

**FarBeag** · 16/06/2006, 6:30 PM

Originally Posted by liam88

I know it was a bad performance......but that just made the celebrations so much better........had an amazing time about 5 of us drapped in England flags singing down the street with someone on my shoulders and everyone beeping their horn at us......brilliant

Good for you but its better if you keep this type of thing to yourself.

They were desperate but as usual pull it out of the bag with a few minutes remaining.It would be a complete injustice to the likes of the Ivory Coast if they make it to the quarters. Watched some of their fans on the iTV news last night chanting 'No surrender to the IRA' How clever.

**liam88** · 16/06/2006, 7:53 PM

Fair play drinkfeckarse- aye tis different situation to most

Originally Posted by FarBeag

Watched some of their fans on the iTV news last night chanting 'No surrender to the IRA' How clever.

I hate that song. But to be fair apart from a bunch a skinheads in pub once I've never heard any of the England fans I know singing it. Most of my mates have never heard it, the ones who have think it's stupid.
It's a far-right/loyalist song not an England song. Seriously from my experience-17 years living in England not many people know that song-to know it you'd have to be into the BNP/loyalist scene. No time at all for people who sing that kind of rubbish.

I'd never sing rule Brittania either.

Some England fans do give the rest a bad name and i'm not trying to justify anything but from living in England most of the people who watch the matches are jsut English people supporting their country.......or Burmese refugees supporting the country they are living in-of which I know a fair few

**cheifo** · 16/06/2006, 8:57 PM

Fair play to you Liam88 but I had my head in my hands when Crouch scored.I thought Trinidad lads were heroic.Funny that Crouch pulled yer mans hair while scoring.

My mother was supporting England because shes thinks Beckham has a lovely smile

.Funny watching it with her."Are'nt their uniforms lovely"

**FarBeag** · 16/06/2006, 9:49 PM

Some England fans do give the rest a bad name and i'm not trying to justify anything but from living in England most of the people who watch the matches are jsut English people supporting their country.......or Burmese refugees supporting the country they are living in-of which I know a fair few

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Good on you Liam, hopefully you will be drapped in the Irish colours for Euro2008.

**LeixlipRed** · 16/06/2006, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by cheifo

My mother was supporting England because shes thinks Beckham has a lovely smile

.Funny watching it with her."Are'nt their uniforms lovely"

Classic

**liam88** · 17/06/2006, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by FarBeag

Good on you Liam, hopefully you will be drapped in the Irish colours for Euro2008.

That I will be buddy :d Should have seen us out the the street after Keane's goal against Germany in 2002! I'll be bringing my tri on holiday with me in September so can go out wearing it when Doyle put us 1-0 up against Germany

**DmanDmythDledge** · 18/06/2006, 11:48 PM

Owen, Rooney, Hargreaves to start against Sweden.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/5092190.stm

**osgood was good** · 21/06/2006, 2:11 AM

1. Cole's goal was fantastic.

2. Lampard didn't do much, couple of good shots.

3. Beckham was invisible in the second half and for much of the first.

4. Owen's World Cup over?? Did it ever start??

5. Rooney doesn't like being subbed. Not one bit.

6. Hargreaves was alright, but any player could have done his job tonight.

7. Why did Sven take Walcott??

8. Sol Campbell is well dodgy, and I ain't talking about you know what...

9. Sven is a ****. When Ferdinand was injured he should have moved Carjacker into the middle, Hargreaves to right back and brought on a midfielder either Gerrard or Carrick. Then brought Walcott on for Rooney.

10..1. Joey's goal was fantastic.

2. Lamps didn't do much, couple of good shots.

3. Beckham was invisible in the second half and for much of the first.

4. Owen's World Cup over?? Did it ever start??

5. Rooney doesn't like being subbed. Not one bit.

6. Hargreaves was alright, but any player could have done his job tonight.

7. Why did Sven take Walcott??

8. Sol Campbell is well dodgy, and I ain't talking about you know what...

9. Sven is a ****. When Ferdinand was injured he should have moved Carjacker into the middle, Hargreaves to right back and brought on a midfielder either Gerrard or Carrick. Then brought Walcott on for Rooney.

1. Joey's goal was fantastic.

2. Lamps didn't do much, couple of good shots.

3. Beckham was invisible in the second half and for much of the first.

4. Owen's World Cup over?? Did it ever start??

5. Rooney doesn't like being subbed. Not one bit.

6. Hargreaves was alright, but any player could have done his job tonight.

7. Why did Sven take Walcott??

8. Sol Campbell is well dodgy, and I ain't talking about you know what...

9. Sven is a ****. When Ferdinand was injured he should have moved Carjacker into the middle, Hargreaves to right back and brought on a midfielder either Gerrard or Carrick. Then brought Walcott on for Rooney.

10.Second half England were shocking. Defensively comical and it would have been hard to argue if Sweden had been 2-1 or even 3-1 up before England got another sniff at goal.

11.England's set piece defending was straight out of the pub football manual with so many players not seeming to have a clue whether they should be marking a man or a space - in the end many did neither.

Sven got what he deserved tonight because of his inability to think a game .
If England were in any other group they would be out of the competition by now .