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    yes we have had about 6 different alternatives


    RTID,
    if you really knew your stuff you'd know some FACTS and not newspaper/message board speculation regarding the cash settlement

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohs til i die
    RTID,
    if you really knew your stuff you'd know some FACTS and not newspaper/message board speculation regarding the cash settlement
    i'll defend you fúckers again in a hurry!

    exactly how wrong am i? and those figures came from a member who was at the meeting......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
    i'll defend you fúckers again in a hurry!

    exactly how wrong am i? and those figures came from a member who was at the meeting......
    who obviously knew who s/he was talking to...
    A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohs til i die
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    yes we have had about 6 different alternatives
    Alright then ... fair enough so. But then again, i had said all i was ever doing was putting it out there, and theres absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    But on the new stadium .... right next to the toll plaza .... crazy idea. Bohs could buy a site and build themselves in a better area for cheaper right now.

    Stupid move imo .... the worst traffic problem in Europe and Bohs are moving right next to the worst part of it ?? I cannot figure that out. To say that theres no othr developer out there that cant do better actually seems mad to me. Have Bohs even asked around? I mean have Bohs even investigated themselves, i dont mean just spoke to people who arrived at their doorstep.
    The core Bohs support would be coming from out the Navan road, and Blanch next to the new location. I don't think it's quite as bad as it looks from that photo, especially if you were coming from the city centre. Even a switch to 8pm kick offs would allow the traffic to ease off, if it was a problem.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Student
    I think it would be in Dublin's and this country's benefit to have such a stadium to hold cup finals, underage internationals, the odd European game of high interest and perhaps some rugby too?
    Sure maybe even the GAH could play in it aswell? Just make sure the pitch is big enough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rerun
    Sure maybe even the GAH could play in it aswell? Just make sure the pitch is big enough...
    Good joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Student
    More than you think. How many of those 24k were fans of other clubs who came to support an eL side in Europe?
    But how many new regular fans did Shels get from that Euro run?
    I'm what? I'm ants at a picnic?

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    This thread reflects Irish society at large, every regular Joe fancies themselves as a property speculator and an expert on valuation of development land.

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    It seems a geat deal for bohs, especially if they have planned how to avoid traffic jams outside the new ground and make up the lost bar revenue.... I suppose with EUR26m in the bank hey could buy half a dozen pubs....

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    Best deal available to an Irish club ever - you pay your bills, get a brand new stadium, no debt and 25m in the bank. Bohs could justify a club running costs of 3-5m a year for for next 10 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    Bohs could buy a site and build themselves in a better area for cheaper right now.

    Stupid move imo .... the worst traffic problem in Europe and Bohs are moving right next to the worst part of it ?? I cannot figure that out. To say that theres no othr developer out there that cant do better actually seems mad to me.
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    The one really good asset they have, they are getting rid of to go to a place where people cant get to? That developer cant believe his luck on this one .... he builds a stadium on a dud plot of land that no one would ever want and they get on of the most valuable pieces of land in the City with unbelievably massive potenial ..... and see nothing wrong with that??
    Good post, and thank you for providing it from an objective viewpoint. For a while there I thought I was going mad.
    If you build it in a sensible place, they will come. If you build it beside the M50 tolls, it'll be easier to get to Longford, and they will keep watching Sky. These essential problems of access and market are being ignored in the euphoria surrounding this proposal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    Bohs could justify a club running costs of 3-5m a year for for next 10 years!
    which is what a lot of us are worried about....... especially if the spending starts before the move
    A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BohDiddley
    Good post, and thank you for providing it from an objective viewpoint. For a while there I thought I was going mad.
    If you build it in a sensible place, they will come. If you build it beside the M50 tolls, it'll be easier to get to Longford, and they will keep watching Sky. These essential problems of access and market are being ignored in the euphoria surrounding this proposal.
    Lads your making mountains out of motorway's here. the stadium will be in close proximity to the M50 toll but it will not connect to it the entrances will be through Castleknock so no one will be travelling on the M50 unless they already do to get to dalymount in which case the journey will be shorter

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
    This thread reflects Irish society at large, every regular Joe fancies themselves as a property speculator and an expert on valuation of development land.
    I'd agree .... everyone claims to be an expert. But aside from that anyone and everyone should not foresake common sense either.

    To fail to look at all the permutations is Irish Footballs worst enemy .... to not look at the bigger picture, look at what the general public see, i suppose its that old chestnut "market research" .... it never gets old, every bank manager will still look for it no matter how dated it is.

    The sad thing about this situation is .... theres no bank manager, just a lowly property developer with a really big heart and sense of community and civic duty and who is looking for a fast track to heaven with this single act of charity.

    How much is it to by that plot of land now ??
    Is it on the market even ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    Bohs could justify a club running costs of 3-5m a year for for next 10 years!
    Shouldn't EVERY SINGLE irish club be looking to funding themselves depending on their income now ??

    Is that not where all the mistakes have been made in recent years ??

    I know there have been alot of mistakes, theres no getting away from that but should we be getting to a situation where we are trying to get away from that, to NOT have it happen again. We might have grown used to it, i'll give you that but seeing as it didn't work shouldn't we try something else now, even for the sake of variety.

    That aside ..... isn't that how Bohs got into the trouble they are/were in ??
    All the members will probably tell you that, they know all too well at this stage. All the guys shouting for Farrellys head the other night would even tell you that.
    Last edited by A face; 03/05/2006 at 12:12 PM.
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    I repeat the word JUSTIFY. With a significant part of the money invested in income earners the club would be sorted. For example, if you have no debts and 25m all of sudden your asking the banks who wants to sponsor us for 250k per season, we want a loan of 10 million to buy investment propertyetc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    I repeat the word JUSTIFY. With a significant part of the money invested in income earners the club would be sorted. For example, if you have no debts and 25m all of sudden your asking the banks who wants to sponsor us for 250k per season, we want a loan of 10 million to buy investment propertyetc
    Now you're talking ..... if thats the way people are thinking then thats fine.
    Still think there is a problem with the site though.
    Last edited by A face; 03/05/2006 at 1:30 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
    Not a penny of public money is going into the ground so we can have it exactly the way we want it without any guilty conscience.
    Is that for definite? If so, very interesting - it could get us out of a nasty hole if the scenario worked out like this:
    - Bohs tell Ollie to shag off
    - High Court tells GAA to shag off
    - SDCC complete Tallaght
    - Rovers move into Tallaght
    - Ollie brown-noses SDCC
    - Shels move into Tallaght
    - Bohs swap the Tramway End for the Motorway End
    - government willing to fund two stadia in Dublin
    - Richmond turned into a four-sided, all-covered, all-seated ground with 5700 capacity, corporate facilities, a bar, etc with the government getting change out of €6 million (according to our Board)
    Revenge for 2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
    Is that for definite? If so, very interesting - it could get us out of a nasty hole if the scenario worked out like this:
    - Bohs tell Ollie to shag off
    - High Court tells GAA to shag off
    - SDCC complete Tallaght
    - Rovers move into Tallaght
    - Ollie brown-noses SDCC
    - Shels move into Tallaght
    - Bohs swap the Tramway End for the Motorway End
    - government willing to fund two stadia in Dublin
    - Richmond turned into a four-sided, all-covered, all-seated ground with 5700 capacity, corporate facilities, a bar, etc with the government getting change out of €6 million (according to our Board)
    The deal on the table means the company buying our land have to build the stadium 100%. Since they are not a sporting body etc cannot see how they will be eligible for grant aid. Ollie and Rovers in Tallaght

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
    - Ollie brown-noses SDCC
    - Shels move into Tallaght
    Are Shels fans happy with that ??
    Are Rovers happy with Shels in there?
    What club at the moment hails the most support from Tallaght ??
    Not one club in north Dublin until Castle Knock ??
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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