QuoteWhat has any of that got to do with the game, in what way did it affect the game? I think even for a wannabe woodentop, you know what the answer to that question is.
yea the ground in which the game was played has nothing to do with it , thats probibly why they smashed the place up ....maybe they where BITTER about utd's stadiumOriginally Posted by Roadend
What has any of that got to do with the game, in what way did it affect the game? I think even for a wannabe woodentop, you know what the answer to that question is.
What Everton one would that be....oh the one that says "Everton AND Liverpool discussion thread"
Anto, all you've done is provide photo's which in any court of law doesn't prove who actually did it.
Where's the proof that it was Old Trafford and that it happened at the weekend?
What Everton one would that be....oh the one that says "Everton AND Liverpool discussion thread"
that would be the one that had its name edited to everton and liverpool disscussion , it was started to discuss everton's lead over liverpool last season by an Evertonian.
Still not an exclusive Everton thread (if there's such a thing) and as far as I can remember it was titled pretty similar to the currant Arsenal/Spurs thread about the 4th place position for the Champions League spot.
EDIT: Just read the first post of that thread where Dillo asks peoples opinions of who will finish higher and the like, that is not an Everton thread no matter what logic you use....have a look again yourself if you want Anto and tell me it's an Everton thread.
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an evertonian starting a thread talking about everton .. oh yea thats not about everton ......so my fault
it was actually called something like mersyside is now moyesyside .
why do i bother arguing with people that condone this behavour all ive seen is excuses, not one person said smashing up the toilets in old trafford or writting about the munich air dissaster or attacking a player or attacking an ambulance talking a player to hospital or the attempted murder of a waiter (thats only in the space of one year )is out of order all i get is "they had banners hanging of bridges " so that makes its ok .
Of course it's wrong but you don't exactly debate very well, yours is more akin to confrontation and provacation. You can tell you take pleasure in posting stuff like that and that's why people get on to you.
Two wrongs don't make a right but surely even you can see that the banners hanging from the bridge on the way to the ground would have instantly p1ssed people off and probably set the tone for what would otherwise probably have been a trouble free day. Those type of banners will always cut deep into wounds that are still raw and I really wish both sides wouldn't resort to such low life attacks.
Ah but its a sad sight when you have to talk more about your far more illustrious neighbours than your own club.
Back to the action. Early on in this thread there was a post about Riise's goal being contentious because the free was never a foul in the first place. Boll0x.
Two mins previous to this, Crouch was deemed to have committed a foul for "high feet" as we would call it or raising studs as it is now known, on Del Horno. This is exactly the same thing John Terry did on Garcia. So if one incident should be a free for Chelsea it should rightly be a free for Liverpool .Couldn't believe that none of the commentators made this comparison.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
anto, If we all wanted we could trawl through the net and find stories of Everton fans acting the prat. Every club has them. There was actually a couple of high profile incidents a couple of seasons ago, maybe last season, can't remember exactly. Can't be arsed researching either cos it's a petty arguement. So don't be preaching.....
And we all know the hatred that exists between Utd and Liverpool. Goading each other about Munich and Hillsborough is something that is done by the locals/natives, oversea's fans do not partake in it. It's sad really, but that's rivalry. If there were Utd 'fans' who went to all the trouble of hanging banners on buildings/motorways just to p!ss scousers off, of course some scousers attitude is going to be 'well fcuk them, an eye for an eye'. And photos above are the result. Not to be condoned, but both are as bad as each other. And remember, Evertonians lost loved ones and friends at Hillsborough too, and as another poster said, scousers will always stick together. You're not a scouser, you're just an Evertonian, so maybe you can't understand it like that? Wasn't there a video clip of Wayne Rooney's brother Graham recently posted in a thread here, singing exactly the same things that were written on the walls at Old Trafford. And he's an Evertonian. Pot calling kettle black
BTW Joe semi, thinking of going over without a ticket and chancing getting one on the day. Depends on cost of flights though, as I've already committed to a summer holiday with the girlfriend.......
anto, If we all wanted we could trawl through the net and find stories of Everton fans acting the prat. Every club has them. There was actually a couple of high profile incidents a couple of seasons ago, maybe last season, can't remember exactly. Can't be arsed researching either cos it's a petty arguement. So don't be preaching.....
And we all know the hatred that exists between Utd and Liverpool. Goading each other about Munich and Hillsborough is something that is done by the locals/natives, oversea's fans do not partake in it. It's sad really, but that's rivalry. If there were Utd 'fans' who went to all the trouble of hanging banners on buildings/motorways just to p!ss scousers off, of course some scousers attitude is going to be 'well fcuk them, an eye for an eye'. And photos above are the result. Not to be condoned, but both are as bad as each other. And remember, Evertonians lost loved ones and friends at Hillsborough too, and as another poster said, scousers will always stick together. You're not a scouser, you're just an Evertonian, so maybe you can't understand it like that? Wasn't there a video clip of Wayne Rooney's brother Graham recently posted in a thread here, singing exactly the same things that were written on the walls at Old Trafford. And he's an Evertonian. Pot calling kettle black
BTW Joe semi, thinking of going over without a ticket and chancing getting one on the day. Depends on cost of flights though, as I've already committed to a summer holiday with the girlfriend.......
what a rubbish arguement , i didnt have to trawl through the internet to find any stories they are all high profile stories. the one your thinking of is probibly when an evertonian hit fowler , he was found by the club and banned from all home and away games , the other is when 2 kids started singing at two asian lads and they where also banned from the ground .They were scum bags that dared to blacken the good name of everton football club .
See the difference Everton acted quickly found and dealt with the scum liverpool just brush it under the carpet .
im not a scouser the misses is and all her family are reds , everton and liverpool fans will normally stick together because normally they are friends and family except derby day .i have great conversations with real liverpool fans why because they dont come out with some of the complete nonsence i see on here .
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Equally poor argument, Everton ban fans who committed these acts while in Goodison, Liverpool are meant to ban people who were not in Anfield when they did the things you so quickly brought up and they'd have no way of identifying them. Good one that alright.
They werent in goodison one was on a private bus coming back from a game in london , it was other fans that reported the racist abuse thats how they were caught and banned , Why could nt liverpool fans have done the same over the toilets in old trafford getting smashed up .
Everton worked with police to ban the guy who hit fowler , liverpool could easily check cctv to see who threw the bottle at Cahill on sat night and ban him .
That's a sh!te arguement if you don't mind me saying. When a Liverpool fan threw a phone at Man U's Rooney at Anfield a few seasons back, he was Id'd and banned. The same as your Everton comparison. How are Liverpool FC supposed to ID fans at Old Trafford? It's up to the Old Trafford security to produce the CCTV footage, pass it on to LFC and then LFC will take it from there. I read a report that MAN U didn't want to make an issue of it because they didn't want to stoke up any tension between the two clubs or two sets of fans. If Utd don't want to send on the footage (if they have any at all) and want to just bill the F.A. for the damage, well that's their call. You can be guaranteed that LFC would want rid of these kind of fans, who like you said only 'blacken the good name' of Liverpool FC too.
And with regard to your reference to the ambulance attack on Alan Smith - it was scousers who attacked the ambulance OUTSIDE Anfield. They were not inside Anfield, therefore not the responsibility of Liverpool FC. There's every chance that some of the attackers were Everton fans as well, who have no love for Utd/Mancs either, not that you should need reminding.
ive highlighted the bit that sums up the liverpool attitude pretty well .and backs up all my arguements about how they just dont care .
how come Everton dealt with incidents OUTSIDE GOODISON . oh no wait thats a ****e arguement because both incidents where outside the grounds so no comparisons can be drawn between them.
there is no love lost between toffee's and manc's but we are still respectfull of the dead ,ie: standing ovation geaorge best got at goodison compared to the booing he got from liverpool fans after his death ,
Last edited by anto1208; 26/04/2006 at 4:43 PM.
Firstly I think the evertonian is generalising about Liverpool fans.
I would like to take issue with the **** who said that local fans sing songs about shipman, munich etc and overseas or OOTers dont. As a Liverpudlian I take exception to this remark, most reds who go home and aways week in week out take no part in these chants, it is simpy as small section of scallies. I have friends who are staunch blues and they also say that there is a small element in the club who make aeroplane gestures at man u fans and sings songs relating to Munich. I have been to Goodison as an away fan and you can always hear a minority of the home support shouting "murderers" etc at our section.
As for OT and man u, firstly at the league game in OT this season, nothing was damaged, I can vouch for that as I was in the Liverpool end, we were attacked outside the away end by nothing else. Last weekend 99% of fans from both sides were well behaved but 1% went there with the intent to cause trouble, its the nasty side of football. At man city in November the minutes silence for Best was interupted by one person shouting in the upper tier of our section and yet it was said the Liverpool fans (as in on mass) disrespected the minutes silence. (Personally I didnt agree with a minutes silence for him but I wouldnt interupt as it would tarnish the rep of my club. John Haynes who was a true pro and a wonderful servant to the game from Fulham did not get one at all grounds).
Anyway last sat was an awesome display, premiership teams are now starting to get to grips with Chelsea.
That's because Utd fans goad Liverpool fans about Hillsborough. Thought I explained that already above? There is little respect between Utd and Liverpool fans. What part of that do you not understand?! If Utd fans were goading Everton fans for years about something like Hillsborough, do you think the Everton faithful to a man would still clap George Best? They would in their arse, some would react the same way as their fellow scousers would. George Best shouldn't have been boo'd, simple as that. But the reality is, it wasn't Best himself that was boo'd, it was more than likely his connection to Utd.
The ambulance was attacked in Liverpool on it's way to the hospital. So does that automatically mean that it was definately Liverpool fans, and only Liverpool fans that attacked it? No it does not. Anyone can partake in an attack like that, of any club loyalty. And if they were Liverpool fans, why were they not inside Anfield? Could have been Everton fans who had nothing else to do.....
That's who I was referring to, I obviously wasn't referring to the whole bloody ground! I never said local FANS sing these songs. I said locals/natives from both sides. I was referring to locals/natives like the scallies you mention, not ALL fans. Like Rooney's brother in the video. Oversea's fans don't sing them simply because, for example, Harold Shipman - they wouldn't have a clue what the song even means. It would mean nothing to them. As an overseas fan, I love Liverpool FC, hate Man U FC. Whereas with the locals, it's more hate the Mancs full stop. That was my point.
Last edited by 4tothefloor; 26/04/2006 at 5:05 PM.
....and I bet any money that you don't come out with half the sh!te that you do on here too otherwise you'd be put firmly in your place.
jesus christ! my wife is a liverpool fan. does that make HER a hooligan too?
there are rotten apples in every barrel, son.
chill out, and support YOUR team, bitter.
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