My understanding was that Setanta did not want national flags or anthems played at any of the Setanta games this season. It doesn't bother me but it may have set a dodgy precedent!
Totally agree that this is inappropriate. Not only are national anthems never played in Uefa run competitions between clubs, but the playing of anthems in a competition whose intention is to bring two communities - so far successfully - with a history of animosity together peacefully, is self defeating. The organisers - the FAI??? - seem to have no common sense with the foresight of a goldfish.
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
agreed lopez,
this sets a very dangerous precedent. I have no problems with tricolors/union jacks at setanta games. after all both sets are representing their leagues but to make such a provocative gesture as playing amhrán na bhfiann is misguided and foolish
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why where the langers from the peoples republic singing along ? there not Irish are they ???????
Dont see why they played it but on i also dont see why it bothers anyone they did!
Had the final been Linfield VS Glentoran and in Windsor park and they played GSTQ,personally i wouldnt give a f*ck,in fact if the final had been Shels VS Linfield and they played GSTQ,i still dont think id give a f*ck!
I am assuming they played no national anthems before last years final.
So by playing one before this years final they are doing the typical Irish "ah sure we'll see what the weathers like in the day" thing. Considering all the hand wringing done over potential tension between North and South teams you'd think they would have made some kind of rule for the this while they were structuring the competition.
Cogito ergo Bohs
pats and rovers stood for the national anthem in the rds for the fist game there
basically if they have a band they gots to do somethin.....lol
overall setanta has been a success cross border wise but the decision to play a national anthem is a bit baffling at the final stage, someone fell asleep at the wheel on that one!
National anthems should only be played at international matches.
For club matches, the only singing beforehand should be club anthems and we're perfectly capable of belting out "When The Saints Go Marching In" on our own without any help from the Garda Band - they should be out nicking bad guys instead of árseing about with trombones at football matches.
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Oh we're not getting on at all today, are we?
Well it's not actually. I don't claim it. In fact i don't want it at all but that's neither here nor there as i'm prob on my own on that one.Originally Posted by sullanefc
No.
Its not about what Amhran na bhFiann is or national pride.
The issue is its a cross-border competition. End of.
No GSTQ when Pool played Chelsea or italian anthem when Milan played Juve in the Champions League.
It's not really outrageous.
Just a bit stupid imo.
Last edited by Risteard; 23/04/2006 at 2:26 PM.
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
Ristear, I feel I owe you an apology for my 2 posts about you. If you look at the timing of the posts I think you'll understand.
However, I do take issue with you saying feck off to the irish national anthem. I take great pride in my anthem and for an irish person to say something like that dissappoints me.
Surprised me to hear it being played as well. Don't see why they felt the need - as most posters on here have commented, it didn't really seem apporpriate or to 'fit in'.
Given the cross-border dimension to the tournament, the decision baffles me.
Totally inappropriate IMO - wasn't played at the Munster Leinster game either, so have no idea why it should be played at a Setanta Cup game.
Foot.ie's entire existence is predicated on the average idiot's inability to ignore other idiots
Bit surprised alright but honestly what difference does it make? Who cares? Nit picking. It was played get over it and move on.
Also think the ban on flags is nonsense in this competition.
KOH
I would certainly agree but I trust we will have no further complaints about Linfield supporters singing GSTQ or Rule Britannia.
Don't mind you singing GSTQ, if you must, (though do you not think it's a bit on the dreary side, musically) Rule Britannia though I think has overtones that I don't like(As opposed to Undertones, who I'm very partial to
), bit too triumphalist IMO. I'm sure you wouldn't take too kindly to a crowd of Southerners signing "A Nation Once Again" would you ? All in all I think it's better to stick to Football songs and leave the politics alone (I did enjoy the Linfield supporters rendition of "You Can Stick Your Fukken Euros Up Your Hole" v Drogheda though, Classy
Ristear, I feel I owe you an apology for my 2 posts about you. If you look at the timing of the posts I think you'll understand.
However, I do take issue with you saying feck off to the irish national anthem. I take great pride in my anthem and for an irish person to say something like that dissappoints me.
Was a bit baffled there alright.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree about Amhran na bhFiann.
I don't feel its a good anthem for the country, not least in a situation such as the Setanta Cup.
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
David it is clear at this stage that your views pre-date those of a caveman but in a desperate attempt to reason with you......
Why would fans of Linfield want to sing Rule Britannia or GSTQ? How is that going to support your players on the pitch especially those of a nationalist persuasion? Why exactly would you sing these songs apart from triumphalism and bigotry?*
*Before you say these songs aren't bigotted they are sung in a sectarian spirit.
"The Derry fans were fantastic in both matches. They sang their hearts out all the time and created an even better atmosphere than the Cup Final. They were brilliant. - David Graham, Gretna striker
Yet more Derry City nonsense. How are they sang in a "sectarian spirit"? They are patriotic songs and there is no problem with them. How can you possibly condemn them but not the playing of the Irish National Anthem? What is the difference?
It seems like some have the attitude that it is only sectarian when Linfield are doing it.
Uhm, there's a fair few people saying that the anthem didn't belong at the final, why would that automatically mean they don't mind GSTQ or Rule Britannia? You seem to be content that this gaffe was made at the final as if you feel two wrongs are making a right. Rangers are undergoing a grilling for having a repertoire which is identical to yours. Does you club enjoy having an almost identical repertoire of songs as another club?Could you not think up of some unique football songs for yourselves?
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