Designated singing section for Croker

**Pat O' Banton** · 24/04/2006, 4:57 PM

Now is the best time to organise something like this. A couple of people have mentioned the problems that the Jungle Bhoys have had at Celtic Park, however thiis isn't really a corect analogy as the Ireland will be going into Croke Park without having the constriction of people retaining block booking seats. At Celtic the Ultras are confronted by the club shifting them around the place to accomodate them while not moving season ticket holders (and also having to placate the Strathclyde police). So now is the time to get in an get organised because of it doesn't happen now the FAI will have place the block bookers and won't be shifting them to accommodate a singing section.

Secondly don't get disheartened if you have a slow start to this, the more displays you put on the more people will be interested in joining, it can have a real cause and effect. But people will expect someone to do all the donkey work first.

**joema** · 24/04/2006, 5:58 PM

Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton

Now is the best time to organise something like this. A couple of people have mentioned the problems that the Jungle Bhoys have had at Celtic Park, however thiis isn't really a corect analogy as the Ireland will be going into Croke Park without having the constriction of people retaining block booking seats. At Celtic the Ultras are confronted by the club shifting them around the place to accomodate them while not moving season ticket holders (and also having to placate the Strathclyde police). So now is the time to get in an get organised because of it doesn't happen now the FAI will have place the block bookers and won't be shifting them to accommodate a singing section.

Secondly don't get disheartened if you have a slow start to this, the more displays you put on the more people will be interested in joining, it can have a real cause and effect. But people will expect someone to do all the donkey work first.

Yeah - now is the time to do it - we need to tell as many people as possible and put as much pressure on the fai as possible - keep posting new ideas here as the fai know about this thread and Im sure they are keeping an eye on it.

Who here HAS e-mailed the fai so far?
The followinh have - more need to

Joema
Saint Tom
Karlos Irl

Also, mods any chance ot this being made a sticky

**eirebhoy** · 24/04/2006, 6:12 PM

Originally Posted by joema

Also, mods any chance ot this being made a sticky

Stickies tend to get less views than normal threads and there isn't really a point in sticking it as the forum isn't too busy.

**joema** · 24/04/2006, 6:45 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Stickies tend to get less views than normal threads and there isn't really a point in sticking it as the forum isn't too busy.

Fair enough - they are probobly less viewed. Anyway there is enough activity in this thread for it to stay near the top for the time being anyway

**Saint Tom** · 24/04/2006, 7:10 PM

the guys at thepeoplesflag.com should be credited. spread the word lads! the more who know the better the chances

**Karlos** · 24/04/2006, 11:58 PM

I'll certainly continue to post pieces up about this on the blog - not that anyone reads it, mind!

From small acorns....and all that!!

reder · 25/04/2006, 9:12 AM

This is a great idea, I am a block booker in my 20's who sits in the west stand and dont get me wrong the guys who sit around me are dead on but standing and singing just doesnt happen. I think having the canal lower as the home end with EL fans and block bookers who want to stand and sing is ideal.

**NeilMcD** · 25/04/2006, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by crc

Sorry to be a linguistic pedant, but this one is amusing because the mistake actually infers the opposite of what you want to say

:

"off the view", means you no longer think it is true,
"of the view", means you do think it is true.

Purely a typo there sorry about that.

I was speaking to one of my mates who goes to all the Scotland games at home and away and he said that the Scots have an end at Hampden which is for fans that wish to sing and stand. However this is rather unnofficial and is done through word of mouth and through websites like this. They can choose where they want to sit in the ground and it is posted up on messageboards that ifyou wanna sing and stand etc sit in the North end for example. He also reckons the key to this is having a family section in the ground. This would cater for parents with kids or elderly people who wish to sit down. This would then free up the rest of the stadium for anybody to stand up and sing. A thing to be wary about is that the FAI cannot officially have a section for fans to stand up as you are not supposed to stand up.

**NeilMcD** · 25/04/2006, 9:20 AM

I have e mailed also.

**Jerry The Saint** · 25/04/2006, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Saint Tom

the canal end lower is where we want

I just read this now but I'm not alone in thinking that the Canal Lower is probably the worst part of the ground to watch a game in especially if you're way down near the front. At least they shouldn't have the big nets behind the goals which usually obstruct your view. Like the rest of the lower tiers you won't be covered in the bottom 25 rows or so either.

I think Canal Upper is a better option but I suppose it's not as if they'll give us a choice of seats. I'll just be happy to be inside the ground.

**joema** · 25/04/2006, 12:07 PM

http://oneteaminireland.bravehost.com/singing.html

http://www.thepeoplesflag.com/web/index.asp

Great news - fair play to them. We are making great progress

**onenilgameover** · 27/04/2006, 12:03 PM

This is great stuff lads and it could work and it certainly wouldnt harm the atmosphere. I was thinking when we moved into the new Lansdowne (if that ever happens) we could organise ourselves on this site into different sections and have fourums set up for the differents areas ie east, west, where by each section could discuss how they were gonna support ie with balloons like we did in paris or differents songs or confetti or flags or whatever. We could compete against each other and get a better rivalry goin. Also it means you have ownership and loyalty to not only your seat but your area.

I'ill send a mail too on the singing section.

**Kingdom** · 27/04/2006, 3:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

I just read this now but I'm not alone in thinking that the Canal Lower is probably the worst part of the ground to watch a game in especially if you're way down near the front. At least they shouldn't have the big nets behind the goals which usually obstruct your view. Like the rest of the lower tiers you won't be covered in the bottom 25 rows or so either.

I think Canal Upper is a better option but I suppose it's not as if they'll give us a choice of seats. I'll just be happy to be inside the ground.

I both agree and disagree with this post. I've my doubts about the nets being pulled back, purely for one reason.
If the nets are left as they are they won't impede anyone's view of the ground. You really don't notice them after a few mins (I've sat in the very lower Canal for a few All-Irelands, and, while the nets won't bother you the view is appalling if you're in the bottom few rows).
If, however, the nets are pulled back to the sides, they will have gathered and will present a fairly annoying obstacle for anyone in the corners.

**Kingdom** · 27/04/2006, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by joema

Who here HAS e-mailed the fai so far?
The followinh have - more need to

Joema
Saint Tom
Karlos Irl

Emailed them myself a moment ago.

**Superhoops** · 27/04/2006, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

I both agree and disagree with this post. I've my doubts about the nets being pulled back, purely for one reason.
If the nets are left as they are they won't impede anyone's view of the ground. You really don't notice them after a few mins (I've sat in the very lower Canal for a few All-Irelands, and, while the nets won't bother you the view is appalling if you're in the bottom few rows).
If, however, the nets are pulled back to the sides, they will have gathered and will present a fairly annoying obstacle for anyone in the corners.

I know us Wicklow boys aint always the sharpest pencils in the box but could these nets (a) be dropped down to the ground or (b) taken down altogether for soccer/rugby games. In either case there would be no 'fairly annoying obstacle for anyone in the corners'

**bluemovie** · 28/04/2006, 10:52 AM

This is a really good idea because it'd be terrible if the atmosphere was flat in the first Croke Park game. As it stands, only a small proportion of the 40,000 at Lansdowne make any noise. Now there'll be an extra 30,000 or so at games, so hopefully they can be encouraged to sing. It's very possible that there could be an eerily quiet atmosphere at the Wales game as people adjust to their new sections and there will be even more corporate non-fans there. I get my tickets from the eircom league allocation so I'll send a mail to the FAI too.

**Kingdom** · 28/04/2006, 1:05 PM

Originally Posted by Superhoops

I know us Wicklow boys aint always the sharpest pencils in the box but could these nets (a) be dropped down to the ground or (b) taken down altogether for soccer/rugby games. In either case there would be no 'fairly annoying obstacle for anyone in the corners'

Thats a valid point. However I've also been there at other times not for sport (interviews etc) and the nets have always been up.
Obviously if it is possible to take them down I'd love to see it, but if it ain't possible then they should be left as is, instead of being pulled back.