Is Full-Time Paying Off?

**ndrog** · 18/04/2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Ronnie

Yes, as things stand there is no doubt that income is going up - noone could deny that. The question is by how much? Is it going up fast enough to meet the increased running costs? Or put another way, where are Drogheda going make 30k a week, every week, for 16 weeks, when the season is over? Thats of course assuming the clubs running costs are 1.5m, and not 2 or 2.5.
Bearing in mind that Cork, apparently, have 4 earning over 100k, I would imaging that there wages is close to 2m and Drogheda are supposed to be the best payers.

I agree that some of the sums of money mentioned sound crazy in comparrison to the earning power of an eircom leauge club.But We have very experienced business people running the club.They by all accounts are putting plans in place for the club to become self sufficent , i.e the new stadium with retail units ,bars ,eateries etc ?

**tiktok** · 18/04/2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

And NO i was'nt wrong about the Bray-Cork game.... On that preformance full-time football is a total waste of money for Cork.

That's a once off though Roo69, I wasn't at the game, but reports suggest you shaded it, but at the end of last season we had the Championship, runners up in the FAI Cup, European and Setanta Cup football guarenteed, and three of the four teams took three of the four European & Setanta places (Derry being the other team, and they're pretty much full-time IMO, though they tend to argue otherwise)

It's only a waste of money if you get ridiculous and lose track of what you pay out, CCFC run a pretty tight ship, which brings me to.....

Originally Posted by Ronnie

Bearing in mind that Cork, apparently, have 4 earning over 100k, I would imaging that there wages is close to 2m and Drogheda are supposed to be the best payers.

Nonsense.

We have 1 player reputed to be on that level, our next highest earner is, at best on �75,000, the majority of the squad are nowhere near those numbers though. also, some of our lads are still part time.

**Roo69** · 18/04/2006, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by micls

But the gulf in class is there. These teams are the ones who will be around the top come November (and Derry). Both Shels and Cork have had relatively big success in Europe which is bringing in good mony. On any day of course Bray can stick with one of these teams but over the season these teams will pull away.

That's bull btw

The money thats being paid out by the likes of Shels, Cork and Drogs i personally do not think it's worth it, i don't think the gap is that big. It's not value for money, as i said you probably pay 2 or 3+ times more than we do every week. With the sort of money being thrown away the top clubs should be miles clear and beating teams like Bray and UCD very easily indeed.

Eh, i never said that, that was someone elses post......

**micls** · 18/04/2006, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

The money thats being paid out by the likes of Shels, Cork and Drogs i personally do not think it's worth it, i don't think the gap is that big. It's not value for money, as i said you probably pay 2 or 3+ times more than we do every week. With the sort of money being thrown away the top clubs should be miles clear and beating teams like Bray and UCD very easily indeed.

Eh, i never said that, that was someone elses post......

Fair enough if that's your personal opinion but its not really about just beating these teams its winning stuff that brings in the money to counteract the money going out. It seems to be working for City anyway-last year turned a profit. Its European football that heightens the profile of the club and ups the gate receipts

**Dazzy** · 18/04/2006, 1:36 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

(Derry being the other team, and they're pretty much full-time IMO, though they tend to argue otherwise)

Would you like to tell Gary Beckett

**tiktok** · 18/04/2006, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dazzy

Would you like to tell Gary Beckett

It's his own fault that he gets up at 3am for work and that Stephen Kenny makes him train pretty much full-time. Stop using the postman as an example of how you're part-time, we've all stopped buying into it

**Speranza** · 18/04/2006, 2:09 PM

Eamon Doherty, Ciaran Martyn, Pizza all have other jobs too.

**lofty9** · 19/04/2006, 10:44 AM

....... Sean Hargan, left his full time job to become a full time footballer this season at 30 something!

Derry are full time, they all train on a full time basis with the very odd exeception.

**dcfcsteve** · 19/04/2006, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by lofty9

....... Sean Hargan, left his full time job to become a full time footballer this season at 30 something!

Derry are full time, they all train on a full time basis with the very odd exeception.

Training every day - like a full-time player - and being a full-time player, with no other job/source of income, are 2 very different things.

Derry are therefore clearly a mixture of full and part time players.

**pete** · 19/04/2006, 11:27 AM

I don't think we can sustain a fulltime premier division. Without the extra reveneu & commercial exposue that Europe & the Setanta Cup brings the other clubs cannot afford 52 week wages.

I think we should probably aim for Scandanavian model for the bottom half of the Premier where players have part-time job as well as football job.

**pineapple stu** · 19/04/2006, 12:39 PM

I wonder is a 44-game season practical at all? Extra games means extra revenue for clubs, whie you get around the problem of playing clubs three times in one season. The English leagues use a 46-game model most of the way down (Conference changing over next season), maybe 42 games in some of the really lower leagues (e.g. AFC Wimbledon in the Ryman Premier), though they make up for it with numerous various cups like the FA Trophy, FA Vase, Surrey Senior Cup, the Football League Trophy, etc. Though there'd probably be relatively little supporter interest by the time the fourth round came along with major issues all but decided.