QuoteSo what is the capacity of seats at Croke park currently.
BOOOOO! Hill 16 is Dublin Only!Originally Posted by nedder
So what is the capacity of seats at Croke park currently.
about 70,000. 12,000 on the hill
Thats will look fantastic for a football match,slightly jealous wont get to experience what the atmosphere will be like.
i think the hill should be for home supporters, let the away fans have the canal end upper.
hill 16 could be the focal / vocal point of the home fans similar to the kop in anfield.
i'm sure the gaa would prefer the hill to be home fans as well, if we were to ever play england i'm sure they wouldn't like to see union jacks flying over the rubble of the easter rising
"If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better." Johan Cruyff
Will disagree with you on this one $Leon$. There are a number of reasons why Hill 16 should be given to the away fans. Firstly, it is more segregated from the rest of the ground. Because the Hogan, Canal and Cusack stands are continuous, it means that anyone can walk around the ground. It would be difficult to secure away fans in the Canal End and would probably mean empty seats between them and the home support. On the other hand, Hill 16 is not connected to the main stands, which makes is better for security reasons. Secondly, although the roof doesn't cover much seating in Croker, at least it encloses the pitch somewhat. That means that the atmosphere created by the home support will be more likely to stay within the ground, as opposed to Hill 16 where it will drift off into the night skies.
As for the suggestion that away support could be put in the upper deck of the Canal End, this will never happen. As far as I can recall, the last time away support was put in the upper deck was in the West Stand at Lansdowne when we played England in 1995. If trouble breaks out on the upper deck of a stand, it is much more dangerous.
As for the composition of Hill 16, all material was removed a couple of years ago so it is no longer composed of rubble from the Rising.
"Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe." Dillo
What Union Jacks? No self respecting Welshman flies that
Saw an article in a Czech football magazine about the qualifiers. Croker was shown as our home ground. My girlfriend translated the basic details and she informed me that Capacity for soccer shown as 65,000 which seemed to indicate that the Hill would NOT be used in the qualifiers!
Last edited by CollegeTillIDie; 19/04/2006 at 6:56 PM.
Will disagree with you on this one $Leon$. There are a number of reasons why Hill 16 should be given to the away fans. Firstly, it is more segregated from the rest of the ground. Because the Hogan, Canal and Cusack stands are continuous, it means that anyone can walk around the ground. It would be difficult to secure away fans in the Canal End and would probably mean empty seats between them and the home support. On the other hand, Hill 16 is not connected to the main stands, which makes is better for security reasons. Secondly, although the roof doesn't cover much seating in Croker, at least it encloses the pitch somewhat. That means that the atmosphere created by the home support will be more likely to stay within the ground, as opposed to Hill 16 where it will drift off into the night skies.
As for the suggestion that away support could be put in the upper deck of the Canal End, this will never happen. As far as I can recall, the last time away support was put in the upper deck was in the West Stand at Lansdowne when we played England in 1995. If trouble breaks out on the upper deck of a stand, it is much more dangerous.
As for the composition of Hill 16, all material was removed a couple of years ago so it is no longer composed of rubble from the Rising.
i wasn't really thinking practically i suppose. personally i don't like the idea of very definite segregation such as the leaving of empty seats. everone there should be there to enjoy the game but as you pointed out the case in 95 just shows that scum will turn up just to cause trouble.
not very big up on stadium accoustics but would the sound not travel towards the canal end and be trapped by the 3 main stands?
as i'm sure you are aware jpm cold air causes sound air to be directed towards the ground as oppose to the sky, hence the fact that sound travels further at night. this would mean that the sound of the crowd on the hill for a night time football international would be alot different to a warm afternoon game of gaa.
keep quiet about the rubble being removed during the reconstruction don't think central council have figured it out yet. it took them long enough to realise that €70million of tax payers money went into the ground and that they better share it with the people who helped build it
"If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better." Johan Cruyff
Do the Czechs realise that we won't be playing them in Croker? That game is fixed for Lansdowne.
"Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe." Dillo
No, I actually didn't realise that.
"Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe." Dillo
Doesn't seem to be on website yet, but the website is a bit hit and miss anyway. I'll summarise it later if I get a chance
Article predated fixtures meeting...
I think John Delaneys article answer a lot of the questions anyway. I think it makes sense to have the away support on Hill 16 and the block bookers getting the 32,000 or so tickets with 10,000 going to premium and 7,000 to away fans. That leaves about 20,000 tickets for people on the waiting list, Eircom League Fans and the general public. I am just glad I will have my 2 anyway for those games. I wonder how they will distribute the tickets. Will block bookers be in one area etc. I would be great if we could have an end where the majority of people are there just to stand and sing for the whole game and not have kids and old guys etc telling you to sit down. Not giving out about these people but the majority of people who sing songs are Ireland games are aged between 18 and 50.
In Trap we trust
I agree with the above, and think that they should offer The Canal End as the singing end, and make it very clear when applications come out. As a west upper ticket holder i would prefer to be in the canal end, but id never give up my west upper tickets unless i got a swop for the north or south terrace guaranteed!
Hopefully all block bookers will be offered a choice of seats in croker but with a recommendation of Canal and Cusack for the singers and the Hogan for the quiter supporters etc.
Exactly, leave the away support on the hill. I was on the hill for All Ireland final 3 years ago and the atmosphere was pathetic. IMO it is extremley difficult to create a good atmosphere with no roof - I mean how many of us have stood on the North or South terrace and sung our hearts out for 90 mins, then when we go home to see the match on tv you cant hear a thing.
Good articl in the people with Delaney, it should be up oin the website before next wednesday (thats what usually happens anyway)
Difficult for me to summarise it, but he calls himself a Kilkenny man.
Also, he blows his own trumpet a fair bit but in fairness he has done a much better job than his predecessors - e.g in 1998 ther was only TWO people in coaching development but by the end of this year there will be 71.
About tickets he said that the block bookers will be notified and that SOME people on the waiting list would be sorted.
He also spoke about the importance of having strong el clubs in Dublin, Limerick, Cork, GAlway and Kilkenny - "afterall, it is a City"
Great idea - I think we should all e-mail the fai to show tats what we want
info@fai.ie
Never been in the place but my impression is that the roof in Croke Park doesn't cover many of the seats so we could have the same problem.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Yeah if we can all e mail that to the FAI saying we want the canal end to be a singing end I think it could work there is not reason why it could not work. At least then kids and people who want to sit down wont be bothered by people who are singing and standing up.
In Trap we trust
Im going to set up a new thread on this in order to get more peoples attention
Yeah your right there Schumi - the roof doesnt extend that far - suppose we'll need to be right at the back. A lot of farly open stadiums can still have excellent atmosphere though - e.g Nou Camp - I know its much bigger but still it doesnt have a large roof either
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