Away Support

[Dillo]

You're clutching at straws there $Leon$. I sense the desperation in your words to defend your image at all costs.

[Saint Tom]

back to the topic... its been all over the place I'm afraid Dassa!

Basel 03 had about 6000 in the ground and I saw tickets changing hand for €1000. Roughly 11-15k travelled.

Tel Aviv we had around 4000, As aforementioned largest ever tourist influx into the country. it cost approx €800 a head to get there and amid the security (suicide bombs in tel aviv two weeks before the match) and six hour direct flight from Dublin, it was impressive. it wll be interesting to see how many brits travel there for euro 2008

Cyprus 11-15k

http://www.thepeoplesflag.com/web/pi...&image_id=1216

http://www.thepeoplesflag.com/web/pi...&image_id=1218

two ends and and a lenght of the pitch

Paris: 30000-40000 http://www.thepeoplesflag.com/web/vi...walkalone.mpeg

thanks to the lads at thepeoplesflag.com a cracking website by fans for fans.
The north bring a sizeable crowd away by all accounts. Hope this helps

Tom

[Peadar]

expect something similar for stuttgart

Are you going, JB?
Not sure what my plans are yet.
Still owe you a pint for that video.
Memory like and elephant, me!

[stickyjoe]

Basel 03 had about 6000 in the ground and I saw tickets changing hand for €1000. Roughly 11-15k travelled.

That trip really pi$$ed me off with some of the clowns that were on it with tickets. We went to basle 12 months later and only had about 1200 there. We couldnt give away tickets for the game

[Karlos]

An awful lot of irish fans that travel to games, while not regular eircom league followers, are involved with junior clubs up and down the country at grass roots level.

I think those involved with EL think the rest of us sit on our arses in the pub every weekend!

Quality Post. The most undervalued people in Irish Football are those working within the local football community. I know I say it all the time but if every self-proclaimed 'REAL' football fan in this country could give one weekend to do a coaching course and then give an hour a week of their time to youth football thereafter, this country's footballing future would be in much better shape.

[nedder]

Thanks Karlos.
it was said above there is no football culture in this country. I beg to differ. We have huge participation levels in this country. Eircom league has its problems with attracting fans.
However i do agree with previous posters on premiership etc. The whole premiership/ skysports thing is a bit soulless for me, I can never understand peoples lives revolving around Liverpool or United. But each to their own I suppose.
( should really start a new thread on this whole topic!)

[jbyrne]

Are you going, JB?
Not sure what my plans are yet.
Still owe you a pint for that video.
Memory like and elephant, me!

too right i'm going. booked it 5 mins after the fixture was announced!
you'll have to remind me... what video??

[The Green Hen]

Just recieved this PM from Dillo, it explains alot of the sh1t he's talkin

Actually it is personal. FACT.

This is the word of the Hen. Amen.

[Forever Dreamin]

Basle Mark 1 was the only game i can remember where we did not get a large percentage of "home tickets" Paris, Giants Stadium etc come to mind. Id say we will outumber home supporters at all our games bar the Germans. Guaranteed to in Cyprus and San Marino, likley to in Czexch and Slovakia wherever they play the matches and if Wales are out of contention and we can qualify expect 30-40K to travel to that one.

[michaelguineys]

I have to agree with Vega. I'd prefer to pay full costs for one Ireland away game than get free admission to a full season of EL games. Just because the EL exists does not mean that Irish supporters should feel obliged to attend its games.

Really really really ****ed off with that comment. So fcukin ignorant, hate that shít

[Forever Dreamin]

As one of those that goes to all Ireland games and very few el games, one of the reasons is I consider Ireland as my team. Players play for the jersey and not for the money. THe premiership has lost it's soul and the el is not too far behind. The majority of players are only interested in who'll pay them the most and dont really give a s*** where the money comes from or care about the fans. I find it odd supporting a team and maybe one year later half the players playing against you! I'm not blaming them as it's their livelihood but dont blame me for not being a big fan. Im just as happy at an underage game and will continue to support the national team as my club side.

I do however respect the likes of the 400 club who have the interest of their team at heart, it's just the players I find hard to respect that change clubs like the weather.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

Really really really ****ed off with that comment. So fcukin ignorant, hate that shít

That's not ignorant at all. I've been to see EL games and just don't like the product. Why should I go to watch the games if I don't like them? Like 'Forever Dreaming' Ireland is my team. I don't associate with any EL team. As pointed out by several posters on this thread, EL fans seem to think they know more than the rest of us. Get off your high horse is what I say. If some of us don't like EL football, there's nothing wrong with that.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

Hear hear! The Leinster Senior Lge rocks.

Have never been at a Leinster Senior League game so you're not getting at me. However, funnily enough, it seems to have as much appeal as the EL. Come to think of it, I don't know which turns me off EL football the most: the poor football or the snobbery of its fans.

[pineapple stu]

Come to think of it, I don't know which turns me off EL football the most: the poor football or the snobbery of its fans.

Snobbery of the fans? A curious comment from one who openly states that eL football is below him.

[NY Hoop]

Who cares what teams people support who go to Ireland away games? The EL 'fascist constituency' are no better than the rest of us. My Irish side aren't even in the EL....so what?
Loads of people may not have a club side, but are just there for the Craic(Don't tell RMK! ) anyway. & good luck to them

"Fascist constituency"??

So being Irish supporting an Irish club means you are a fascist? Jesus wept. We never said we were better than anyone.

If we were living in a country that wasnt obsessed about everything english we would have one of the best leagues in Europe.


KOH

[mypost]

Spain and Germany have huge populations compared to us and are supposed to be football obsessed countries.

Spanish fans are event junkies too. e.g, Barcelona took up their full allocation of a couple of thousand tickets for their fans to go to London to see them play Chelsea, yet the same fans never bothered to go the considerably shorter distance to Zaragoza, for a league game a few days later. They'll sell out their home games against Real Madrid fine, but against Mallorca, Cadiz, or Albacete, the place will be barely half-full. Crowds have been known to be as low as 40,000 at the Nou Camp for league games, with there being more atmosphere, on the moon. This from apparantly, the most-supported football club in the world. The "rebel country's" fans are only obsessed with Real Madrid.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

Snobbery of the fans? A curious comment from one who openly states that eL football is below him.

For someone who puts a UCD crest beside their username, you seem to have real difficulties understanding posts.
I never said EL football is below me. I said I don't like it and prefer international football. There is a difference. On the other hand, a number of EL fans think think they're above the rest of us because they go to EL games. That's pure nonsense as far as I'm concerned.

[pineapple stu]

You said that you wouldn't go to games even if it was free in. I can only assume from that that you consider eL games below you. It's a fairly natural conclusion.

Ask any (real) Manchester United or Arsenal fan what they think about Irish people spending a fortune travelling to England every weekend while ignoring their domestic league. They'll think we're idiots (though will happily take our money of course). And they're right.

The gas thing is the sheer amount of double standards prevalent in the media and among the public in general about the issue. I remember an Irish Times article not long ago criticising Manchester United for targetting China, using very aggressive marketing to ensure all the kids there became Manchester United fans and started demanding the new jersey, etc. The irony that the exact same thing happens here was quite beyond them.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

You said that you wouldn't go to games even if it was free in. I can only assume from that that you consider eL games below you. It's a fairly natural conclusion.

Ask any (real) Manchester United or Arsenal fan what they think about Irish people spending a fortune travelling to England every weekend while ignoring their domestic league. They'll think we're idiots (though will happily take our money of course). And they're right.

As I said already, I wouldn't go to EL games even if I got in free. It has nothing to do with the cost of attending EL games. I just don't like the quality of football. That doesn't mean I'm a Mun U or Arsenal fan however. My club team is Ireland. I do follow English football to check on the progress of the Irish players but that is as far as my loyalty extends. I echo your sentiments that Irish people should go to EL games before Premiership games. However, nobody should feel obliged to attend EL games as some people on this forum seem to suggest. If people want to confine their support to the national team, well they've every right to do so, and its not because we're "looking down" on the EL.

[pineapple stu]

I echo your sentiments that Irish people should go to EL games before Premiership games.

In fairness, I think most people (myself included) merely object to people following English clubs ahead of Irish clubs. No-one is forcing anyone to follow a particular team or league, but, as you note, they can't understand how they will follow a foreign league avidly and treat their domestic league with contempt. I missed you saying that you go only to Irish games. It's a curious stance, but I suppose doesn't cross the mark! eL fans' "superiority complex" is a natural reaction to the contempt shown them by Irish barstool fans of English teams.