Eircom League Weekly

**Schumi** · 05/04/2006, 1:44 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

It would only take 30 secs on eircom weekly to even comment on the table etc

They do. It doesn't add much to just reading the table!

**monutdfc** · 05/04/2006, 1:47 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

The first division is just as important as the premier Div

No it is not. FACT!

Floodlights differ, and there is a certain minimum lighting strength needed for televised games (I remember someone beiong an expert on this matter on JW's old eircom league forum)

**padzer** · 05/04/2006, 1:48 PM

I think Setanta would do a good job of an EL highlights show, if their Serie A highlights show is anything to go by. They give decent stats and coverage, although there is no studio chat. But id rather more coverage and goals with a voiceover than whats on offer on TV3. They also have a good Scotish weekly round-up. Only problem is not everyone in the country has Setanta.

**Peadar** · 05/04/2006, 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

It is easy to support a team who sucessful

It's easier to watch the football they play too.
Not always easy to watch some of the sh�te in the First Division though.

**Schumi** · 05/04/2006, 1:51 PM

Originally Posted by padzer

I think Setanta would do a good job of an EL highlights show, if their Serie A highlights show is anything to go by. They give decent stats and coverage, although there is no studio chat. But id rather more coverage and goals with a voiceover than whats on offer on TV3.

I assume that's a generic show produced by the Italian league. I think Setanta would do a better job than the current TV3 version though. Maybe they could sell it on to RTE or TV3 for them to show a day later or something?

**Ash** · 05/04/2006, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Maybe they could sell it on to RTE or TV3 for them to show a day later or something?

It would still have to be shown at a decent time.
11.30pm and 6am are ridiculous times to show the programme.

**Peadar** · 05/04/2006, 2:04 PM

I've gone to the trouble to look up this information from the Club Licensing Manual and post it here to show the different floodlighting requirments for the various license category's.

A License The stadium must be equipped with a Floodlighting System complying with the minimum average lux level specified in the relevant UEFA club competitions regulations. If this is not achieved UEFA may allow daylight kick off time. The FAI will issue an FAI floodlighting Certificate based on verified measurement records from FAI-approved contractors.

B License The stadium must be equipped with a Floodlighting System. The Floodlighting System must have a minimum average lux level of 500 Ev obtained from 88 readings taken on a
grid system provided by the FAI Club Licensing Department (see FAI Floodlighting Measurement Procedures). The FAI will issue an FAI Floodlighting Certificate based on verified measurement records from FAI-approved contractors.

C License The stadium must be equipped with a Floodlighting System. The floodlighting System must have a minimum average lux level of 250 Eh obtained from 88 readings taken on a grid system provided by the FAI Club Licensing Department (see FAI
Floodlighting Measurement Procedures). The FAI will issue an FAI Floodlighting Certificate based on verified measurement records from FAI-approved contractors.

**Conor H** · 05/04/2006, 2:57 PM

Peadar you weren't at either game between Galway and Harps so once again your talkin ****e!
Two late golas,a penalty shoot out...controversial goal etc.....good man you know what you're talking about.

I take it your not better than UCD then?

**Conor H** · 05/04/2006, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by Peadar

It's easier to watch the football they play too.
Not always easy to watch some of the sh�te in the First Division though.

My god ive watched a good few Cork games this year and i wouldnt exactly call it easy on the eyes!

**Peadar** · 05/04/2006, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by Conor H

I take it your not better than UCD then?

You seem to struggle with fact so I'll spell it out for you.
We drew 0-0 away to UCD. Therefore we were not good enough to beat them. We didn't do enough on the night and as a result, weren't better than UCD.

Originally Posted by Conor H

My god ive watched a good few Cork games this year and i wouldnt exactly call it easy on the eyes!

I was talking about the highlights from your division being hard to watch. Couldn't bring myself to watch an entire game.

**Conor H** · 05/04/2006, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by Peadar

I was talking about the highlights from your division being hard to watch. Couldn't bring myself to watch an entire game.

Well that's your arrogance.Rovers v Galway was a really entertaining game with good quality football.Not having a go at Longford or Sligo but by all accounts that game was full of hoofing.(just an example no disrespect intended).By saying you wouldn't watch a 1st Divison game is a bit rich.In fact there was a bigger crowd at Galway v Harps than at least 3 if not 4 premier games last weekend.
Obviously premier league is better than the 1st...but no way is the standard of football between the bottom 6 better than the top 4 of the premier IMO.

**Peadar** · 05/04/2006, 3:13 PM

Originally Posted by Conor H

but no way is the standard of football between the bottom 6 better than the top 4 of the premier IMO.

No one ever suggested it was. The reason they're in the bottom 6 and we're in the top 4 is because we're so much better, obviously!
You boys don't half state the obvious!

**SeanDrog** · 05/04/2006, 3:21 PM

Peadar is the biggest poster of bait on this site - why o why do people rise to him. just laugh at him - I think his constant attempts to wind people up are hilarious.

**gufct** · 05/04/2006, 3:26 PM

here with a picture of Rico on his wall to keep him stimulated.

**A face** · 05/04/2006, 3:29 PM

Moderation:

Lads, can you all settle down a bit in fairness, its a good debate .... try and contribute to it .... if you cant then just leave well alone.

**garykelly** · 05/04/2006, 3:45 PM

Originally Posted by Conor H

Not having a go at Longford or Sligo but by all accounts that game was full of hoofing.(just an example no disrespect)intended).

by all of whose accounts ??? we were crap in longford, but i thought longford played good football in parts and we played well for a spell; all on the ground i might add. one or two long passes doesnt exactly constitute hoof ball. . Conor, when galway get promoted you wont give a crap about the first division. It's only natural that you want more coverage of the 1st division but it wouldnt be a topic if galway were in the prem. I was the same for the past six years of first division football. It's frustrating but once ye get into the prem you'll forget about the pain of playing in the first division. Yer well equipped for Prem football. I've only seen 4 games this season, but derry were the only ones who ran us ragged. There might not be much difference between top first division teams and lower prem teams, but getting out of the first division is the biggest and most notable step towards proving your good enough.

**Trainee** · 05/04/2006, 3:45 PM

the first division deserves more media coverage than it does?

The football is good most of the times when the refs let the games flow (against monaghan the ref gave free for harmless fouls where he could have easily played advantage )

The is gap between the quality of the first & premier but it is as big as most of you think.

**mypost** · 05/04/2006, 6:46 PM

Originally Posted by Peadar

I've gone to the trouble to look up this information from the Club Licensing Manual and post it here to show the different floodlighting requirments for the various license category's.

A License The stadium must be equipped with a Floodlighting System complying with the minimum average lux level specified in the relevant UEFA club competitions regulations. If this is not achieved UEFA may allow daylight kick off time. The FAI will issue an FAI floodlighting Certificate based on verified measurement records from FAI-approved contractors.

B License The stadium must be equipped with a Floodlighting System. The Floodlighting System must have a minimum average lux level of 500 Ev obtained from 88 readings taken on a
grid system provided by the FAI Club Licensing Department (see FAI Floodlighting Measurement Procedures). The FAI will issue an FAI Floodlighting Certificate based on verified measurement records from FAI-approved contractors.

C License The stadium must be equipped with a Floodlighting System. The floodlighting System must have a minimum average lux level of 250 Eh obtained from 88 readings taken on a grid system provided by the FAI Club Licensing Department (see FAI
Floodlighting Measurement Procedures). The FAI will issue an FAI Floodlighting Certificate based on verified measurement records from FAI-approved contractors.

It's all very well running to the floodlight rule-book, but we all know it's a cop out.

All the league grounds have floodlights.
95% of the entire league's games are played at night.
If there is a title decider involving a club playing in a ground where the lights are said to be below standard, it will still be Live on tv.
Invariably said game will be played at night.

That's the nub of the issue.

Originally Posted by trainee

the first division deserves more media coverage than it does?

The gap between the quality of the first & premier but it is as big as most of you think.

In England, every single match outside the Premiership is covered by both terrestrial and satellite tv, and have a weekly highlights show on both networks. Non-league matches are also shown live on satellite tv. That's how it should be done, so that all levels of football are catered for.

In any case, teams haven't exactly been pulling up many trees so far this season in the Premier Division. Last week featured 2 victories, Bohs lost their first 3 games 1-0, Cork have had two 0-0's already, Shels have had only 3 draws, not many goals have been scored, and games have been postponed. Hardly worth your hard earned �15, is it?

**Conor H** · 05/04/2006, 8:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

It was not a good game but there was no hoofing to be fair from us. Actually i think our team tend to over play it to be honest ! We were the only footballing team in div 1 last year and when we played against Cork the one thing you would have to say about us is that we kept it on the ground !

In fairness RT i did hear Longford were worse and i wasn't having a go at Sligo....just using an example to proove my point.