Owen Garvan profiled in the Guardian

[Dodge]

Or maybe we just hype any youngfella with a bit of talent up unbelievably so, and they aren't as good as we actually thought they were?

Richie Patridge? Thomas Morgan? Graham Barratt?

Happens everytime. Totally unfair on the lads.

[youngirish]

Richie Patridge? Thomas Morgan? Graham Barratt?

Happens everytime. Totally unfair on the lads.

Totally unfair on them because none ever got close to a look in at the senior side so why they were hyped up I'll never know . Garvan at least has shown this season that he is one of Ipswich's most consistent and talented first team performers which is far more than the aforementioned ever achieved.

At the moment though he is far from the finished product and needs to improve if he is to be successful at a higher level.

Also I don't see though why Garvan is hyped up far more than Supple or Chris McCann both playing well at the same age and in the same league. Over time I see Supple as developing into the better player.

[Stuttgart88]

Also I don't see though why Garvan is hyped up far more than Supple or Chris McCann both playing well at the same age and in the same league. Over time I see Supple as developing into the better player.

In fairness, Garvan's performances have been the most notable so far. Chris McCann has only recently been a first team regular at Burnley. I also think there are certain positions that youth isn't necessarily a hindrance, but for a teenager to be able to dictate a game in central midfield - as Garvan has done on a few occasions - is more remarakable than a teenage goalkeeper playing some good games in my opinion. I actually think Supple's form has dipped a little lately but he's a very talented keeper.

[livehead1]

In fairness, Garvan's performances have been the most notable so far. Chris McCann has only recently been a first team regular at Burnley. I also think there are certain positions that youth isn't necessarily a hindrance, but for a teenager to be able to dictate a game in central midfield - as Garvan has done on a few occasions - is more remarakable than a teenage goalkeeper playing some good games in my opinion. I actually think Supple's form has dipped a little lately but he's a very talented keeper.

i have no doubt that supple and garvan will play at a higher standard than they are at the moment, supple has looked outstanding on a regular basis and has kept lewis price out of the side, price , i think, is a full wales international so he is doing great, as is garvan.

[tricky_colour]

http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co...le.asp?a=14279

"Probably not needing his Sat Nav for the drive up the A12 to Portman Road, Curbishley was apparently at Town's game against Hull City on Saturday to cast his eye over youngsters Owen Garvan and Shane Supple, as well as experienced defender Jason De Vos."

[livehead1]

Livehead, to digress a little: how has John Thompson being doing at Forest lately? Any chance he'll step up a level? It all looked so good when Forest nearly went up a few years ago, with Thompson making a big contribution & sometimes from midfield.

not even a regular at forest, when i have seen him he is OK from rightback but i think we can forget about him becoming an ireland regular, i think he has a cap though, he won't add to it.

[ken foree]

well i hardly think that me hoping for the best for ireland's midfield and garvan in general can be construed as hyping, if any of them posts were implying. message board reality vs. the guardian newspaper ffs!

[tetsujin1979]

not even a regular at forest, when i have seen him he is OK from rightback but i think we can forget about him becoming an ireland regular, i think he has a cap though, he won't add to it.

He does, he came on as a sub VS Canada a few years ago, the same game Andy Reid made his debut in. What I think ended his international career was that he was the only player in the squad for the Romania and Unity Cup games and never got to play. I remember Brian Kerr commenting that he used 22 out of 23 players in the 3 games (Romania, Nigeria and Jamaica), he was the 23rd

[youngirish]

What I think ended his international career was that he was the only player in the squad for the Romania and Unity Cup games and never got to play.

I'd say not getting a regular game for a terrible Notts Forest team in the lower leagues of English football probably done more to end his International career.

[tetsujin1979]

I'd say not getting a regular game for a terrible Notts Forest team in the lower leagues of English football probably done more to end his International career.

I meant that being the only player who didn't get a game in the 3 games did not bode well for his international future

[youngirish]

I meant that being the only player who didn't get a game in the 3 games did not bode well for his international future

Understood. I never thought too much of him to be honest. Pity he didn't prove me wrong though we could do with some decent defenders to choose from