Didier Drogba: cheat?

**oconghc2** · 27/03/2006, 1:01 PM

jaysus - i can imagine 2 auld lads in white rain coats bumbling over was it a goal or not or did the ball go over the bar or not!!

**Roadend** · 27/03/2006, 1:05 PM

I'm sure they'd be green coats, maybe even only down to the waist.

**Clifford** · 27/03/2006, 2:13 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

Who decides what's worthy of a TV replay decision and what's not. It just opens up a can of worms where teams will argue it should have been used in such and such a case till we've tv decisions for everything. I hope they never bring it in, but maybe a ref in each half, GAA style umpire behind the goal, is a more feasible solution

Point taken, but would it be any worse than it is now? Don't think so. It takes a ref five mins to sort out the players as it stands before he gets to do anything so while he's doin that a quick look at the tv by the 4th official wouldn't hurt.

I'd suggest goal incidents for starters only, then the goal for Chels would have been disallowed and Barca's one given very easily and quickly while the arguing was going on anyway.

**Roadend** · 27/03/2006, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by Clifford

Point taken, but would it be any worse than it is now? Don't think so. It takes a ref five mins to sort out the players as it stands before .

TV replays won't stop players surrounding the ref after a decision though, that's a different kettle of fish altogether.

**marktis** · 27/03/2006, 2:42 PM

For the issue of players surrounding the ref - I think that the referees should be told that any player who is not the captain who harrasses him/her should be booked.
Something similar to the rugby where the referess only addresses the captain on the field.

Quick enough players would stop surrounding officials if they knew that they would get a yellow card straight away.

**Clifford** · 27/03/2006, 2:46 PM

Originally Posted by marktis

For the issue of players surrounding the ref - I think that the referees should be told that any player who is not the captain who harrasses him/her should be booked.
Something similar to the rugby where the referess only addresses the captain on the field.

Quick enough players would stop surrounding officials if they knew that they would get a yellow card straight away.

Too much common sense in that post altogether. But apparently even a captain can't have a reasoned chat with them after Saturday's fiasco.

**marktis** · 27/03/2006, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by Clifford

Too much common sense in that post altogether. But apparently even a captain can't have a reasoned chat with them after Saturday's fiasco.

Very true

But Distin was being a little bit cheeky !!!

On the Drogba subject, it will be interesting to see what the FA do regarding his diving comments and the fact that he admitted to cheating.

There is going to be a whole section in the FA dedicated to handling all of the chelsea issues between the disrepute charges and now Drogbas comments

**jebus** · 27/03/2006, 3:05 PM

In fairness to Drogba and his comments on Match of the Day I think Lee Dixon was spot on in saying that a lot of what he 'said' about diving was due to his poorish english and not fully understanding the question, I lock the guy up for that at all.

But as far as the argument that diving is part and parcel of the game and until officials sort it out we should just learn to accept it, well how anyone can't see that thats a load of ******** is beyond me. Is it acceptable for Robben to act like he has been shot when he is glanced by Reina's glove? No Is it okay to do though because the ref gives Reina a red card, and in doing so helps out Robben's team? No. Is it acceptable for Drogba to intentionally handle the ball so as to help his team beat Man City? Nope. Is it acceptable because the assistant ref doesn't see it and gives the goal? Still no I'm afraid. Anyone, Chelsea fan or otherwise, who thinks its okay is part of the problem with football these days, and hopefully will just go and **** off and watch pro wrestling for themselves if they are okay with such theatrics in organised sport.

**razor** · 27/03/2006, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

In fairness to Drogba and his comments on Match of the Day I think Lee Dixon was spot on in saying that a lot of what he 'said' about diving was due to his poorish english and not fully understanding the question, I lock the guy up for that at all.

Poor English? Must be contagious.
He said "Sometimes I dive" what part of this sentence did he not mean to say? Seems straight forward enough to me.

**Roadend** · 27/03/2006, 3:24 PM

So what if he did say it, he dives all the time and it goes unpunished. No referees are being reprimanded for blatantly letting him away with it. They are obviously not applying the laws of the game and that's not his fault. If the FA pursue him for his comments, they'll have to take action against the godawful referees who aren't up to scratch also.

**renovater** · 27/03/2006, 8:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Stars

well if you were watching MOTD2 last night you would have seen a true sports man in Di Rossi for Roma.He scored a goal with his hand.The goal has given but he owned up to the ref and the goal was then disallowed.
Not a hope of Drogba doing this because he is a cheat.He admitted that he dives,and people will say he got is words mixed up but he knew once he said it he shouldnt have so went back on his story when asked again.

I don't condone anyone that cheats but you would swear it never happened before,
Now lets jog your memory do you e=remember that famous save spurs v man u
When the ball was scooped from behind the line last year and sky sports showed the ball had crossed the line from all angles.
I dont remember name of the keeper, I do no he not at the club think he with Westham.
point is he wont be the first or the last.
Untill refs get there act together I am afraid its going to continue which is sad like every thing in football this is a 7 day wonder it will be something else next week.
what ya views on the hand of god (maradona)

**Clifford** · 27/03/2006, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by marktis

Very true

But Distin was being a little bit cheeky !!!

On the Drogba subject, it will be interesting to see what the FA do regarding his diving comments and the fact that he admitted to cheating.

There is going to be a whole section in the FA dedicated to handling all of the chelsea issues between the disrepute charges and now Drogbas comments

Distin asked Styles his question first BEFORE styles asked for the ball.

By then demanding the ball instead, he was refusing to answer a question which Distin as captain was entitled to. He thereby deliberately provoked that situation and should be disciplined in the same way as a player would be for petulance.

**dfx-** · 28/03/2006, 12:08 AM

Drogba - a cheat?

You seriously need the above to be debated....?

**Kerry Blue** · 28/03/2006, 4:25 AM

Originally Posted by renovater

I don't condone anyone that cheats but you would swear it never happened before,
Now lets jog your memory do you e=remember that famous save spurs v man u
When the ball was scooped from behind the line last year and sky sports showed the ball had crossed the line from all angles.
I dont remember name of the keeper, I do no he not at the club think he with Westham.
point is he wont be the first or the last.
Untill refs get there act together I am afraid its going to continue which is sad like every thing in football this is a 7 day wonder it will be something else next week.
what ya views on the hand of god (maradona)

I can't see how you can say Roy Carroll is a cheat in relation to that incident. It was his blunder that allowed the ball to cross the line. It wasn't as if he cheated in order to score for United.

As far as Drogba is concerned it seems to me he only cheats when he plays for Chelsea. Now I didn't see every game he played for the Ivory Coast in the African Nations Cup this year but I can't recall him carrying on like he does for Chelsea. Seems to me like it's win at all costs for Mourinho no matter whether you play by the rules or not. The FA will have to act on Drogba's comments no doubt. A player can't say he cheats and then expect to get away with it. If they can punish Gary Neville for a goal celebration then they must sort out Drogba too.

**londonirish17** · 28/03/2006, 6:28 AM

His physique is more suited to rugby.[/QUOTE] Posted by Pete

Hope that you're not serious by saying this ?
Drogba would be a shame for the game! He wouldn't survive for 5 minutes on a rugby pitch. As for the rest of your quote, I totally agree with you...

**Hulsey** · 28/03/2006, 9:46 AM

T.V replays would ruin the game big time. You need a bit of controversy, otherwise the game would become a less interesting.
On the Drogba thing, yes it was a blatent handball and should have been disallowed, but last week against Fulham, his handball goal should not have been given as a foul as there was no way the ref or lino could have seen through him, therefore they didn't witness the foul at all. These things even themselves out.

**Hulsey** · 28/03/2006, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kerry Blue

I can't see how you can say Roy Carroll is a cheat in relation to that incident. It was his blunder that allowed the ball to cross the line. It wasn't as if he cheated in order to score for United.

As far as Drogba is concerned it seems to me he only cheats when he plays for Chelsea. Now I didn't see every game he played for the Ivory Coast in the African Nations Cup this year but I can't recall him carrying on like he does for Chelsea. Seems to me like it's win at all costs for Mourinho no matter whether you play by the rules or not. The FA will have to act on Drogba's comments no doubt. A player can't say he cheats and then expect to get away with it. If they can punish Gary Neville for a goal celebration then they must sort out Drogba too.

But was the outcome not the same mate? A point was gained from Carroll scooping the ball out. I don't expect Carroll to admit to the ref, neither do I expect Drogba to. Sometimes you just get lucky.
On the Ivory Coast thing, he acted in much the same way, over reacting to minimal contact etc.

**renovater** · 29/03/2006, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hulsey

But was the outcome not the same mate? A point was gained from Carroll scooping the ball out. I don't expect Carroll to admit to the ref, neither do I expect Drogba to. Sometimes you just get lucky.
On the Ivory Coast thing, he acted in much the same way, over reacting to minimal contact etc.

Kerry blue is red all over and blind by the facts
you are right the out come are the same.
but kerry blue must come off the fence and agree he mis led the ref the same as drogba did.
By the way i rather have droggs on my team than having to defend against him
In fairness to droggs you dont here him complainning of all defenders bad tackles that we dont see.
He all round player he covers every blade of grass,all I can say next game go out and get acouple more goals and that will be the end of that. you then become the great droggs and the boo boys will drift away,and fined someone else to pick on.

**Clifford** · 29/03/2006, 10:46 PM

I must say I'd forgot there is someone worse than the new hand of drog and that's Inzaghi. Saw him tonight and it brought back awful memories of the guy in his prime. Hope Dogbaaaa goes that way as well.

**renovater** · 30/03/2006, 9:55 PM

Originally Posted by Clifford

I must say I'd forgot there is someone worse than the new hand of drog and that's Inzaghi. Saw him tonight and it brought back awful memories of the guy in his prime. Hope Dogbaaaa goes that way as well.

for moment thought you had small bit of forgiveness.however you will never put a good man down the Droggs