I think he, is / was, the kind of player that was maybe a bit unlucky not to get playing at a higher level sooner in his career ~ I assume many clubs looked at him for some reasons or other just thought that he wasn't quite good enough ~ I would say that he was probably very unlucky that one of those clubs just didn't take that chance ~ Funny old game, soccer can be at times !Originally Posted by third policeman
I think he admitted himself that he didn't apply himself as much as he could have done earlier in his career. By the time he did there was a ceiling to what level he could realistically reach, but he did still make it to the Premier League for a while.
Notts County manager Maynard liked McGoldrick, but he was sacked and McGoldrick and the club have not been able to agree terms on a new contract, so Didzy is now a free agent.
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Moves up to EFL 1 by joining Barnsley (and former team-mate Hourihane) on a 12 month deal.
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Hat trick for McG today against Leyton Orient and his 10th goal in last 9 games.
Call him up Trap!
He is on fire. Shame he retired early and wasn’t picked earlier by MON
Is it desperation to wonder if he'd fancy a little World Cup playoff return? A chance to play in the World Cup?
We currently have -
Parrott (on fire)
Ferguson (injured)
Idah (injured)
Szmodics (****ed out of his club)
Connolly (injured)
Kenny (hard to argue it isn't an expecteed drop for him going from Celtic to Bolton)
Obafemi (already ruled out for the season with injury)
Robinson (probably? But he's a bench option in League One who scored his first goal of the year yesterday)
Armstrong (likely to get a call up I guess, but is he any good?)
Emakhu (maybe behind Armstrong in line, but not convinced he's any good either)
Curtis (one in 11 since joining Plymouth in January)
Collins (hasn't played in three months - presume he's injured)
Moylan (six goals in eight games in League One)
Keane (two goals since joining Reading in Jan)
Alli (has moved up to Portsmouth in the Championship but between them and Luton, he only has two goals this season)
It really is a pile of dreck after Parrott
Idah is expected to be back. There's also Cannon who isn't mentioned above and has scored a few in the Championship. The striker situation isn't really any different now than it was in November. Absolutely no need to be calling up a 38 year old third division player. Anyway, him retiring from international football is probably part of the reason why he's still able to play in League 1.
Is Celtic to Bolton that much of a drop for Kenny? Wouldn't think so tbh.
Our star striker plays for AZ Alkmaar. A better club than Celtic obviously but not exactly gargantuan. Where would they land in the English pyramid? Championship?
I think Bolton is a come down from Celtic in fairness. No Champions League, and he's not exactly home up in the world. And we knew he was not really Celtic level I think - the move to Bolton just confirms it
Parrott potentially is in line for an upwards move though
I keep forgetting about Cannon, but again he's not up to much lately. I wouldn't rule out an attempt to bring McGoldrick back for one squad. It wouldn't really reflect well on our striking options, but here we are
McGoldrick is a beautiful footballer. Lovely touch and great football brain. I actually think he would still thrive in international football.
Not sure about that at all. Rovers qualify for the Champions league so you can't really use that as a barometer. Celtic have been soundly beaten in Europe these past few seasons. Not sure what "home up in the world" means? Come I assume?Celtic are, at best, a championship level side. Probably closer to the top of league one at the moment. It's a very light diagonal move down maybe. But out of a toxic club and into one with the chance to go up. Im sure he's delighted.
Rovers have never qualified for the Champions League.
Celtic got out of the groups last year and were a whisker from beating Bayern in the knockouts. This year they've obviously regressed - which is reflected in the fact Kenny was getting games for them. I think Bolton is more his level
I meant to say Parrott was going up in the world - 24 goals in 34 games for a good Dutch side is the sort of stuff that gets you a bigger move
Kenny wasn't up to Celtic standard - Idah maybe was but his attitude didn't help him a lot of the time. Scales is up to the standard.
I'd say I have about as much chance of getting a cap for Ireland in March as McGoldrick has. He wouldn't want to come back and HH wouldn't want to bring him in. We have plenty of other options at a similar and higher level.
You never said groups stu, but fair enough. They have been operating at a higher level in seasons past. Right now, I don't think they are at all. SPL seems very weak overall.
As it stands, where would they be on the English pyramid in your opinion?
Either way we can agree it's a good move.
The qualifying rounds aren't the Champions League though - no more than the World Cup qualifiers are the World Cup.
I don't really know where that team would be in England - solid Championship at worst I'd say. There's a definite correlation between income and performance in football, and Celtic's income of £140m is way in excess of any League One club. (In fact, it's about four times the average Championship club) Though they're certainly going backwards alright and haven't recruited very well.
It's probably a good move for Kenny. But I do think it is a drop for him all the same, and not unexpected as he just wasn't up to it at Celtic. I'm generally not much in favour of calling up third tier players and Kenny would come under that remit.
And yes, I'm aware of the Sideshow Bob clip of suggesting that McGoldrick could have his ear bent about now...
Id usually take the income argument and call it a win for you but Im not sure Celtics current squad are worth what they are being paid and of course there are concerns amongst Celtic fans that their income isn't very reflective of their ambitions. Let's say championship is their level though...will Kenny be around Celtics level if Bolton get promoted?
I'm not advocating for Kenny to be called up at all btw. Just haven't had a good chat with you for ages! Sadly though, he's probably not all that far off it is he? Did fine in his only appearance so I wouldn't be too concerned if he was. Well not on the micro level!
Well probably the bigger factor I suppose is that I should have said it's wages rather than income that equate to performance - in Celtic's case they make a profit because they're so tight, while in the Championship it's almost expected to spent 125% of income on wages. But the fact their income is so much bigger than a Championship club's means the parallel should still stand. And yeah, they may have to pay a premium to get you to come along and play Ross County and Dundee so regularly.
All a bit hypothetical, no? Kenny has one goal for Bolton; he hasn't proven he's Bolton's level yet! If they get promoted, will they look to replace him? And so on. Let's see how he goes.
Oh I completely agree with this! I don't think it's a good thing we could consider McGoldrick either, but never say never. I think our striking options are terrible if anything happens to Parrott. And the concern is how many of our promising options from 4-5 years ago - Connolly, Idah, Obafemi, Ferguson, even Cannon more recently - are going backwards.
Definitely hypothetical and probably pointless. It's Monday. But yeah let's see how he goes. I've said before that I didn't think he was even Rovers standard when we signed him first. His improvement the following season may have been him hitting his ceiling or close to it. Or maybe he can go up another level or two.
Yeah agree on the disappointing track record of our prospects. We probably have a few similar stories in every position but it's hard not to get excited about strikers who look promising, and some of those really did look like they were on track to be fairly elite. To not even get one of those to achieve what we expected is brutal.
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