Steve Finnan

[tricky_colour]

Cant believe you said that, fled the scene and leave them to die. Have you any morals? Drinking and driving first of all is one of the most irresponsible things to do. And as they say if you do the crime etc etc

Well I said if I *had* killed some one, if they are already dead you cannot
leave them to die.

If they were injured it would almost be in my best interests to insure they
did not die, never mind the interests of the injured party.

If they are dead you have nothing to lose by fleeing apart from 10 years in
jail.

[onenilgameover]

I do drive. Yes, cars can't stop straight away, and if (if) yer man was suicidal and walked straight out, fair enough. But if you're talking on a mobile, your reaction times are increased. Which means you're less likely to stop in time. Which means you're more likely to kill someone. Which means if you're talking on a mobile and driving, you're an idiot.

I have throughout this thread tried to shy away from making a judgement because I don't know the facts here, but it's undeniable that people on their mobiles and driving are a bigger risk. That's my entire point (and it's one which you didn't even mention in your post). That's all.

There's nothing about suicidal that's beside the point...Somebody can just walk about and not be aware of themselves...or their surroundings.. It may not be the drivers fault...However anyone driving while on their mobile should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law..They are indeed idiots...I didn't want to talk about mobile's cos it sounds like a bad rumour in the Finnan case and didn't want to indulge it...

[pineapple stu]

There's nothing about suicidal that's beside the point...

Hence the two "if"s to ensure the hypothetical implication!

[onenilgameover]

Hence the two "if"s to ensure the hypothetical implication!

sure my point is that its not only the suicidal that walk out in front of traffic...you can't automatically blame drivers...

[KK77]

apparently the old boy who walked out in front of him died of pneumomia after surgery and not the injuries caused from the accident

[4tothefloor]

tricky_colour, are you on about Lee Hughes being drunk or Steve Finnan being drunk? Because Steve Finnan wasn't drunk and stayed at the scene. Lee Hughes on the other hand is in jail because he was\did the opposite to both of those.

[jimbob117]

anyone know what the story with him now is?? is he back in preseason training , or still being questioned??

[tricky_colour]

tricky_colour, are you on about Lee Hughes being drunk or Steve Finnan being drunk? Because Steve Finnan wasn't drunk and stayed at the scene. Lee Hughes on the other hand is in jail because he was\did the opposite to both of those.

Lee Hughs, sorry for any confusion.

As for being in Jail, Finnan's case has not came up yet and that might
be a possibility although I sincerely hope not. (Assuming I have my facts right
and I can't remember the exact charge etc...).

[tricky_colour]

apparently the old boy who walked out in front of him died of pneumomia after surgery and not the injuries caused from the accident

You had me thinking Richard Whitely there for a moment.
Apparently pneumonia is known as "the old mans friend" because it is
as relatively painless way to go.

That is the thing about some driving laws, as your fate may depend on the
relative health of the person you hit, although I assume such things are
taken into acount to some extent.

[tricky_colour]

anyone know what the story with him now is?? is he back in preseason training , or still being questioned??

I believe he is on bail, either awaiting trial or awaiting a decision as
whether to prosecute, I will have to re-google the story later.

"He was bailed pending further inquiries to appear at a police station on Wednesday June 29."

That was today so I assume thats what your were referring to, but
I don't what the outcome was/will be, nothing in the google news.

[tricky_colour]

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...name_page.html

Just says date has been pushed back to 11th July.

Also
http://u.tv/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=24242&pt=s

Benitez ensuring he has cover in that position?

[jimbob117]

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...name_page.html

Just says date has been pushed back to 11th July.

Thanks for that, nice work, hopefully it works out for him if he is innocent.

[John83]

Benitez ensuring he has cover in that position?

Josemi hasn't really worked out (has he left the club?), while Carragher is now garuanteed to start in the centre.

[tetsujin1979]

Josemi hasn't really worked out (has he left the club?), while Carragher is now garuanteed to start in the centre.

I heard some Spanish side were looking to take Josemi on. Dunno if it was on loan or a permanent deal

<EDIT>

Just checked www.footballrumours.info, it was Villareal

[OwlsFan]

Heard the fat boy on TV3, Aidan Cooney, say that Finnan and Breen are doubts for the Cyprus game. Anyone hear anything more about this ?

Not sure either would be getting a start but we can do with having everyone available at this stage.

[shakermaker1982]

BBC have mentioned the Finnan injury, he should train tomorrow though. Only 16 players turned up for training......not good.

[Stuttgart88]

BBC have mentioned the Finnan injury, he should train tomorrow though. Only 16 players turned up for training......not good.

No big deal I reckon. Carr was at a funeral, Given, Kilbane and Colgan all allowed to arrive late. Finnan & Breen injury doubts. Breen was hardly likely to figure anyway.

I like Finnan a lot but he's been in poor form lately. Carr ought to play RB and injury to Finnan could force Kerr into playing Steven Reid RHM. Carr is great against the good teams though I've felt he's been poor against the mid-ranking and low-ranking sides.

[Dublin12]

Carr,or Podge as me bird calls him ,might lose a couple of stone in that heat over there,might see a leaner meaner version come kick off time on Saturday.

[razor]

Heard the fat boy on TV3, Aidan Cooney,

That diet must be working for Trevor.

[OwlsFan]

That diet must be working for Trevor.

No sign of Trevor this morning. It was Mr Jowels himself, Aidan no neck Cooney who only comes alive when there is a hint of food or wine tasting in the air. He also made some glib comment about Kevin Doyle and Cork/Reading and that there had to be a message there but I didn't pick up on it.

If Finnan is out it may well herald the return of Stephen Reid - will add a bit of much needed height to the team.