Possible effects on Setanta Cup from dublin riots?

**Bald Student** · 28/02/2006, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Why should a newspaper not quote online forums? Are you suggesting that it should self-censor on this, and ignore the fact that these postings existed, and that if it doesn't it is somehow tabloid-like?

Because online forums carry as much weight as a conversation in a pub. Less if anything because the contributions are annonomus.

**pete** · 28/02/2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFan

There seems to be a pretty strong link between the Ultras and this riot
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I will these comment subject to proof. Back this up or remove that comment yourself.

As posted by Bald Student anonymous forum postings does not constitute news.

**paudie** · 28/02/2006, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

There would have been ugly scenes in Tolka on Saturday if Linfield were due to play (KO would have been about 3ish, therefore it would have been at the height of the rioting).Hundreds of these rioters would have made the short trip to Tolka for this. If this did happen it would have put the competition in serious doubt for future years. However, when they (Linfield) do come to Tolka there will be some mindless scum attending the came, although not alot, but there will be an element!

Surely there was a great opportunity for these thugs to cause major trouble at the Linfield/Shels cup final last year.

I'm aware there was some trouble but it seems to have been very minor.

There's no reason to link the rioting on Saturday to EL or IL football

**Mental Man** · 28/02/2006, 12:40 PM

I think its an absolute bloody disgrace that somebody even had the brains to put this up on as a thread, if you look carefully at the ilk that were causing the trouble you will see that they were wearing SellThick jerseys and ireland jerseys, the tiocfaidh ar la knobheads wereout in force that day, absolute disgrace to be even supporting a team that has links to a fascist republican organisation that murders innocent people and deals in drugs, Fact
I think its very rich for somebody to come on and blame everything on rovers fans,even if he is constapated he blames rovers,but he must have cured his constapation today cos there is some s**t coming from him now, have witnessed trouble at bohs matches now more than rovers games.
Libel action is the only way to stop dopes like these putting up slanderous posts like what we have seen and lets get onlads and enjoy the footie when it starts.

**Roverstillidie** · 28/02/2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFan
There seems to be a pretty strong link between the Ultras and this riot.

**WeAreRovers** · 28/02/2006, 1:05 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFan

If you want to see libelous posts go and check out the ultras forums, anything goes, literally anything, with one exception being criticism of Rovers or the thuggish element among their fans.

Absolute rubbish. Your very own gypoweb actually names Bohs fans who were allegedly involved on Saturday - now that's libellous.

Get off your high horse, it's beyond pathetic.

KOH

**BohDiddley** · 28/02/2006, 1:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bald Student

Because online forums carry as much weight as a conversation in a pub. Less if anything because the contributions are annonomus.

I think most readers of the article are big enough to draw their own conclusions concerning the limitations on the credibility of anonymous forums.
The facts are that the comments were posted, that they were tolerated by the ultras board, and that anyone reading them could and should have foreseen trouble.
Anonymous or not, at a time when every national newspaper is leading with the story, that's news.
I'm surprised at the neo-authoritarian streak running through this thread, with shakily-grounded legal threats and simple hostility to news we don't want to hear.
I said before that football hooliganism in Ireland is exagerrated by media who seem to wish it into what ridiculous existence it has, and I still believe that. But if there is clear, factual evidence, as in these postings, then the media is not doing its job if it ignores it.
As for the alleged singling out of the ultras site, I don't have the answer to that. Did other MBs have material like this? I didn't see any on Gypsies-Web. Is it not fair comment to note that anyone regularly reading SRFC posts here will see that some (certainly not all) of their supporters enjoy drawing a sectarian, greener-than-thou distinction between themselves and fans of at least one other club? Farcical, yes, but last Saturday showed how that sort of nonsense still manifests itself in the minds of some 21st century pinheads.
I agree with the previous poster who wants us to just get on with the football. But to do that, we have to recognise a problem where it exists.

**monkey magic** · 28/02/2006, 1:12 PM

bohsfan, you really need to get a grip of yourself here, taking posts from a forum and using them to argue that "There seems to be a pretty strong link between the Ultras and this riot" is ridiculous in the least. i watched the images from the riots very carefully over the past few days and all i saw were thugs wearing sellthick jersies, yet no one is claiming there is any link between sellthick and the riots. posts on a forum prove absolutely nothing, and its very dissapointing to see the times stooping to that level