Possible effects on Setanta Cup from dublin riots?

**padjoe** · 28/02/2006, 1:39 AM

what effect (if any) will the love ulster riots in dublin have on the setanta cup?

**el punter** · 28/02/2006, 1:46 AM

I'd expect some idiots may try to cause a fuss when Linfield come to Dublin but I'd be stunned if the gards got caught on the hop with that.

**Dodge** · 28/02/2006, 1:47 AM

padjoe, give your own opnion if you're going start a thread like this

**David** · 28/02/2006, 6:40 AM

I really do not see it having any effect.

**daniel** · 28/02/2006, 8:45 AM

Dodge he asked for other peoples opinions, maybe he doesnt know what to expect, therefore he wont have an opinion on the matter

**Peadar** · 28/02/2006, 9:11 AM

I didn't see any Derry City FC, Cork City FC, Drogheda United FC or Shelbourne FC shirts on rioters. Didn't hear that any of these clubs had condoned the violence. Can't see what any of this has to do with the Setanta Sports Cup.

If the boys we met in Portadown last week are anything to go by, the competition will continue to be a massive success where good will between supporters is concerned.

**Raheny Red** · 28/02/2006, 9:14 AM

There would have been ugly scenes in Tolka on Saturday if Linfield were due to play (KO would have been about 3ish, therefore it would have been at the height of the rioting).Hundreds of these rioters would have made the short trip to Tolka for this. If this did happen it would have put the competition in serious doubt for future years. However, when they (Linfield) do come to Tolka there will be some mindless scum attending the came, although not alot, but there will be an element!

**Dodge** · 28/02/2006, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by daniel

Dodge he asked for other peoples opinions, maybe he doesnt know what to expect, therefore he wont have an opinion on the matter

Or he could be posting it up to stir ****e. He obviously thinks there'll be some reaction as he wouldn't have posted it otherwise.

**dcfcsteve** · 28/02/2006, 9:16 AM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

when they (Linfield) do come to Tolka there will be some mindless scum attending the came, although not alot, but there will be an element!

Sure - you can hardly ask Ollie not to turn up for a big game like this......?

**Vitruvian Man** · 28/02/2006, 9:51 AM

I was listening to Newstalk this morning and they said they were going to have an article exploring how football hooligans were responsible for the Dublin riot. I never got to hear the piece because I got into work but I was interested because well known members of Irish footballs only two Snappy Dresser Clubs were spotted on TV having a love-in with each other and giving the police the some hassle from the safety of Frazers doorway.

**pete** · 28/02/2006, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by BohsFan

Saturday was a disaster. I think the Garda had one hand tied behind their backs as there was political pressure to keep policing low key in the hope that would mean the day would be low key. Some hope. Although one aspect of the whole thing is actually encouraging. The turnout for the protest was actually pitiful. I would estimate about 300 active participants. That is nothing. On a good day they would be washed off the streets in 10 minutes and I predict if it happens again they will be washed off the streets.

There is a thread in Current Affairs on the riots. Please stay on topic.

I don't see it having any affect whatsoever.

**BohDiddley** · 28/02/2006, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man

I was listening to Newstalk this morning and they said they were going to have an article exploring how football hooligans were responsible

They would

**Dodge** · 28/02/2006, 11:30 AM

LOL at that Ultras forum bit.

**Roverstillidie** · 28/02/2006, 11:42 AM

what do you mean 'standard denial'?

an open fans forum with a current affairs section (like this btw) where some posters predicted that there would be trouble and the times spin this as ultras organising it?

why the hell should our fans be singled out here?

what you are saying is some (barred) bozos rioted so that makes them rovers fans?

utter garbage from a paper that should know better

**pete** · 28/02/2006, 11:46 AM

Very disappointed with the Irish Times to be stooping to low standards of the tabloids. The articles is hyping the events mentioned which bad in itself but quoting website forums is a new low for the IT. I'll be sending them an email complaining later.

**NY Hoop** · 28/02/2006, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFan

Disagree. I literally wouldn't recognaise any Rovers hooligans, I try to keep away from them. I could pick out two known Bohs scumbags though and from talking to other EL fans they claim that they were able to pick out several known Rovers thugs. There seems to be a pretty strong link between the Ultras and this riot.

The reason I disagree with you is that perhaps for once and for all the police will now be inspired to weed out this scum and clean up football in this country. As unpleasant as we might find it to have such a focus on irish football hooligans, albeit Rovers hooligans, this problem has existed for years. Perhaps their involvement last Saturday will prove to be their stupidest move in a long time.I certainly hope so.

This is the stupidest post I've read in a while. Firstly you say that you wouldnt recognise any Rovers "hooligans" then you say that they were "involved". Get a dictionary and find out what PROOF means. I have had a good look through all the photos published from saturday and I dont recognise any Rovers FANS there.

How is there a strong link between the Ultras and the riot ffs? Just because the IT say so. In fairness to the IT they do say that the site "was visited by a number of people who posted inflammatory anti unionist comments". Anybody can register on the forum. Lally is a lazy journo and its an easy way out cos Rovers have the same colours as celtic.

To connect any of our fans to the scum who looted and beat up foreigners on saturday is an absolute thundering disgrace but I suppose can only be expected from a club that condones "casuals"

KOH

**The Sheliban** · 28/02/2006, 12:10 PM

Apparently the site of a bit of red, white and blue cloth in Parnell Square is morally offensive, but not in Tolka or Turners Cross.
Thank God for football.

**Roverstillidie** · 28/02/2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFan

There seems to be a pretty strong link between the Ultras and this riot.

be very, very careful here. legal action may follow this article. qualify that or hit the edit button.

what possible link is there between a rovers fan club and a RIRA organised riot? you admit yourself there were bozos in the thick of it, why shouldnt the corresponding thread on the bohs forum be quoted in the paper? or pats? or cork? or foot.ie? just because a thread about the planned march was correct does not mean the moderators of the site agree with the posters, let alone organise trouble.

the ability of members of the bohemian football and cricket club to blame any and evey ill in their life on rovers fans is astonishing at the best of times, but this is madness. get real

**BohDiddley** · 28/02/2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Very disappointed with the Irish Times to be stooping to low standards of the tabloids. The articles is hyping the events mentioned which bad in itself but quoting website forums is a new low for the IT. I'll be sending them an email complaining later.

Why should a newspaper not quote online forums? Are you suggesting that it should self-censor on this, and ignore the fact that these postings existed, and that if it doesn't it is somehow tabloid-like?
The messages, and their blood-curdling import, are the responsibility of the moderators of the message board, not of the newspaper that reports them. Many (disclosure: including me) have been banned for a lot less!