Hooliganism in England and Ireland

**Raheny Red** · 25/02/2006, 7:13 PM

Yeh it's not that big but there is still an element of hoolies in the eL...........

**CollegeTillIDie** · 25/02/2006, 7:15 PM

Not so much at EL games just at protest marches in the City centre.......................

**pete** · 25/02/2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by feo123

its not that big in ireland! you hear about incidents once or twice a season, but thats about it!

Hooliganism assumes some organisation of which there is virtually none in the this country. Couple of lads slapping each other does not count as hooliganism.

**A face** · 25/02/2006, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by gonzo

Surely there's enough material already on this for a

1000 dissertations........

Gonzo, can you show me where to find 500 surveys on this issue, all asking the same questions as this girl? As we can see, some of the questions aint worded the best or ask the right questions but its a survey none the less.

Show me where to find this and i'll take it down. And for the record, S***s.& B**s. weren't even mentioned till you brought it up!?!

**The Sheliban** · 27/02/2006, 8:17 AM

Hooliganism � Irish Style

I cannot understand those fans
Who end up bundled into vans.
I�m perfectly prepared to say,
�Our team was worse than yours today.�
I do not feel the urge to fight
To show the other fans I�m right.
Just once I bowed to football violence,
When farting in the minute�s silence.

**Colm** · 27/02/2006, 11:08 AM

There is no real football hooliganism in Ireland.

**padjoe** · 27/02/2006, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Gonzo, can you show me where to find 500 surveys on this issue, all asking the same questions as this girl? As we can see, some of the questions aint worded the best or ask the right questions but its a survey none the less.

Show me where to find this and i'll take it down. And for the record, S***s.& B**s. weren't even mentioned till you brought it up!?!

hey A face contact aido b he conducted a thesis last year and he had some comprehensive results i think or it could've been bull**** either way it was convincing.

**A face** · 27/02/2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by padjoe

hey A face contact aido b he conducted a thesis last year and he had some comprehensive results i think or it could've been bull**** either way it was convincing.

Nice one !!

**padjoe** · 27/02/2006, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Nice one !!

can you keep posted as to what her findings are? maybe publish her paper here on foot.ie

**A face** · 27/02/2006, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by padjoe

can you keep posted as to what her findings are? maybe publish her paper here on foot.ie

She said she would anyway !!

**padjoe** · 27/02/2006, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by A face

She said she would anyway !!

good stuff!!

**Macy** · 28/02/2006, 8:20 AM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Yeh it's not that big but there is still an element of hoolies in the eL...........

There's a few pretenders alright, but if you (or indeed they) think they're the real thing you're living in dream world.

**Raheny Red** · 28/02/2006, 9:23 AM

I never said they were the real thing, but there is an element, it doesn't matter how organised they are. Once they go about in an unruly and destructive behaviour it makes them a hooligan.........

**aido_b** · 28/02/2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by padjoe

hey A face contact aido b he conducted a thesis last year and he had some comprehensive results i think or it could've been bull**** either way it was convincing.

It was all truth Peej!

**Drumcondra Red** · 28/02/2006, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

There's a few pretenders alright, but if you (or indeed they) think they're the real thing you're living in dream world.

Coming from a battle hardend hoolie no doubt??? RR you're dead right!

**anto eile** · 28/02/2006, 7:54 PM

Originally Posted by bigmac

Just wondering A-Face, do you know what level the dissertation is at (undergrad, Masters, PhD?) as the questionnaire is not particularly well constructed. I would assume that Maeve is some form of Sociology student, and perhaps it would be worth her while sitting down with her supervisor and discussing the methodology requirements for such a study. As BohDiddley mentioned, the study makes no distinction between racist abuse and verbal taunting of players, which leaves most respondants a little confused as to the nature of the question. There is always verbal abuse directed at players, (frequently from "home" fans) and the referee, yet I have rarely seen or heard racial abuse or personal remarks clearly designed to cause trouble (e.g. remarks heard at a GAA game from one player to another regarding a recent close family death). But the question as it is phrased in the questionnaire is at best vague, and at worst misleading.

she sounds like some dizzy culchie youngone who never attends football. she should steer clear of the topic because i doubt she has any idea what shes on about

**anto eile** · 28/02/2006, 7:58 PM

Originally Posted by padjoe

hey A face contact aido b he conducted a thesis last year and he had some comprehensive results i think or it could've been bull**** either way it was convincing.

it was convincing was it?wow.
you can write anything and some people will always think its convincing. the herald and indo are proof of that

**Drumcondra Red** · 28/02/2006, 9:12 PM

Originally Posted by anto eile

she sounds like some dizzy culchie youngone who never attends football. she should steer clear of the topic because i doubt she has any idea what shes on about

Hahaha!!! Well said fella!!!

**aido_b** · 01/03/2006, 3:23 PM

Originally Posted by anto eile

it was convincing was it?wow.
you can write anything and some people will always think its convincing. the herald and indo are proof of that

If you're planning on questioning something I've written I'd rather you take it up with me anto, cheers

**anto eile** · 03/03/2006, 7:19 PM

didnt question what you wrote.
i merely made an observation.and a valid one too. you will agree if youve seen the sh!te that irish newpapers have come out with in the last few days