Charlton interested in Dicker: The Sun

[thegit]

I think it's could by Myler, i also heard Paul Byrne is about a month away from full fitness if all goes to plan for him. There was some english club's in for Dicker as well I heard, UCD will find it hard to hold onto him and Quigley this year.

[Schumi]

I wasn't at the match so can't make any comments on the performance but I think it's a little premature to be worrying about the team after one friendly. Monaghan had played a few friendlies already so were always going to be more match fit and sharp.

I think it's could by Myler

Hmm. He hasn't been great for Longford since he went there. He did well in Drogheda though so hopefully he could recreate that form again. We are a bit desperate too I suppose.

There was some english clubs in for Dicker as well I heard, UCD will find it hard to hold onto him and Quigley this year.

I presume there'd be decent money due in compensation though.

[Student Mullet]

I think it's could by Myler

Brilliant. He's still the coolest player to have played in Belfield.

There was some english club's in for Dicker as well I heard, UCD will find it hard to hold onto him and Quigley this year.

They're on 2 year contracts aren't they? And still under 23 so we should get a good few bob if either go.

[thegit]

I know but who do you replace them with ?
Thats the thing with UCD they get good young players because they play
them, whens the last time they had a big signing ? It's a shame really because with the likes of Quigley, Hurley, Dicker, Kenna and Byrne as well as some of the more experienced players they have, and 2 or 3 more good signings they could really have a team thats challenging.

[pineapple stu]

They're on 2 year contracts aren't they? And still under 23 so we should get a good few bob if either go.

Yeah, they're entering the second year of a two-year contract. We seem to have changed to two-year contracts lately, which is good. I've heard Tranmere were sniffing around for one.

I wouldn't be too downhearted about players leaving for English clubs - there's not much we can do, and it's great publicity for what a spell at UCD can do for your career. I suppose as long as we can keep finding players like Quigley, Dicker, Hurley, Finn, etc. - and we've been getting them with much more regularity than ever before of late, I think - we'll continue to punch above our weight. Then there's the U-21s - champions twice in a row - and players like Jimmy Lee Matthews signing from England...

Still, badly need a forward. Wouldn't want to be relying too much on Paul Byrne for next season purely on the basis of nine games!

[thegit]

In today's Sun there's a piece about Charlton looking at Gary Dicker. Pete Mahon say's he going no where until the end of the season in the interview which is great for UCD but Would it not be better to sell him before his contract runs out?

[Schumi]

We seem to have changed to two-year contracts lately

Can I take credit for this after my fanzine article a couple of years ago?

In today's Sun there's a piece about Charlton looking at Gary Dicker. Pete Mahon say's he going no where until the end of the season in the interview which is great for UCD but Would it not be better to sell him before his contract runs out?

Charlton, wow!

I don't know if we'd lose out on much money by holding on to him until the end of his contract as we'll still be due compensation because he'll still be under 23.

[thegit]

yeah but surely theres a difference between someone buying out a contract and just getting compensation. It's a nice position for UCD to be in if they can afford to wait.

[Poor Student]

I think it's better for both the club and Gary that he stays until the end of the season. His development will fare better playing first team games here than English reserve football. He's even managed to tie down a place in the national setup playing for UCD. Let us just hope that he gets some competitive U-21 caps so we have a good arguing point in any tribunal. Cherry Orchard will also be due some of the fee.

[thegit]

I doubt any club in England would take a player from the eircom league to sit on the bench especially after what Kevin Doyle has achieved, I do agree though he is better playing in the eircom league than reserve in England.

[Schumi]

yeah but surely theres a difference between someone buying out a contract and just getting compensation.

I don't know too much about the ins and outs of it but I'd imagine buying out the contract is just a matter of them making an offer. If it's substantially above what we'd get in compensation, it might be too good to turn down. Otherwise having a premiership standard player in the team for a year would probably be worth more than the difference. Don't forget the pretty small fees that Kevin Doyle and Wes Hoolahan went to Britain for, we're not going to be offered 500k or anything close.

[thegit]

I think it will be a long time before any Eircom team get 500k for a player, and I doubt the offer will be to good to turn down. The clubs should be looking at what they can get at the back end of the deal. Like selling on and full international call ups and such!

[Schumi]

I think it will be a long time before any Eircom team get 500k for a player, and I doubt the offer will be to good to turn down.

Exactly so we may as well hold onto him for another year as the amount of money due won't be much less.

The clubs should be looking at what they can get at the back end of the deal. Like selling on and full international call ups and such!

That's a good point. Is it possible to add these on to a compensation package?

Am I right in thinking that we'd be due some portion of any future sales in the same way as schoolboy clubs are?

[Poor Student]

Exactly so we may as well hold onto him for another year as the amount of money due won't be much less.


That's a good point. Is it possible to add these on to a compensation package?

Am I right in thinking that we'd be due some portion of any future sales in the same way as schoolboy clubs are?

To the best of my knowledge anyone who is deemed to have had a hand in developing the player and invested some time and money into him is due a portion of any future sale. I think Crumlin Utd. get a piece of every Robbie Keane sale. Maybe someone can put up the official guidlines on this?

Git, are you a fan of the college?

[thegit]

I'm not to sure, I think maybe you might get something on the first sale after that it would end I think ?

No poor student I'm a St Pat's fan, I have to say though I do like UCD and it would be a shame to see them break up if this new league thing happens.
Without UCD players like Dicker Quigley Byrne and such would be warming the bench for the likes of Shels.

[Schumi]

To the best of my knowledge anyone who is deemed to have had a hand in developing the player and invested some time and money into him is due a portion of any future sale. I think Crumlin Utd. get a piece of every Robbie Keane sale. Maybe someone can put up the official guidlines on this?

That's what I thought. I'll have a look at the FIFA site for details.

[Poor Student]

No poor student I'm a St Pat's fan

What do you think of getting Anto Murphy back? I'm sorry to see him go.

[thegit]

not to much really he seems to be a nice chap but he's a bit hot and cold,and at times he's a bit of a loose canon. He makes a good squad player i suppose.

[Bald Student]

To the best of my knowledge anyone who is deemed to have had a hand in developing the player and invested some time and money into him is due a portion of any future sale. I think Crumlin Utd. get a piece of every Robbie Keane sale. Maybe someone can put up the official guidlines on this?

Git, are you a fan of the college?

I think the rule is that 5% of the transfer fee gets divided between each club he was at on the basis of how many birthdays he spent at the club between 12 and 21. So, for example, if a player was with UCD for 3 years, UCD would get 30% of 5% of each transfer.

[pineapple stu]

Kevin Doyle was actually bought (as opposed to an U-23 Bosman) was he? I think Cork have a clause that they'd get extra if (when) he gets an international cap.

If Gary were to move to a Premiership team (like Charlton), and what with him being only 19 now and with three U-21 caps, including one as captain and one goal, I wonder are we getting ahead of ourselves talking about compensation for Gaz getting a senior cap?

That percentage of subsequent sales is actually very very small. Imagine Gary scoring the winning goal for Charlton in the FA Cup Final against Chelsea, who subsequently buy him for £17m - we'd still only get £17m * 5% * 20% = £170k. Though I suppose it's better than a kick in the teeth, which is what we'd have gotten under the old rules.

Anyway, let's return this thread to planet Earth...!