Deaths on Irish roads are the fault of the public (drivers) and not the Government

[CollegeTillIDie]

Well the worst crime anyone commits in this country is buy a car!
VRT, VAT on the purchase price. Which makes the car in Ireland one of the most expensive to purchase in the EU .You have to be insured to have the car on the road. You have to pay Road TAX to have it on the road legitimately. More than 50% of the cost of your fuel is either TAX or DUTY payable to the government.
You have to pay road TOLLS and then if you park it somewhere convenient you either pay PARKING meter or discs and if you don't park in the right place you pay for a CLAMP or your car is "stolen" by the local authority and then you have to pay a ransom to get it back!

[strangeirish]

Well the worst crime anyone commits in this country is buy a car!
VRT, VAT on the purchase price. Which makes the car in Ireland one of the most expensive to purchase in the EU .You have to be insured to have the car on the road. You have to pay Road TAX to have it on the road legitimately. More than 50% of the cost of your fuel is either TAX or DUTY payable to the government.
You have to pay road TOLLS and then if you park it somewhere convenient you either pay PARKING meter or discs and if you don't park in the right place you pay for a CLAMP or your car is "stolen" by the local authority and then you have to pay a ransom to get it back!

Walk

[pete]

I am a realistic with respect to car taxes - this country made a decision some time ago to fund a large part of the states spending by car taxes, in other countries they would have property tax or other forms. While i believe VRT to be the truest double tax there is & most probably illegal I don't see it changing anytime soon.

[Passive]

Most crashes are down to driver behaviour but the appalling condition of many rural roads is a problem that must be addressed by local authorities. Where the government has failed us is by not implementing their road safety strategy, a document which is top class but which has been criminally ignored by the very people who brought it in.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

It's not the Government's fault that people disobey speed limits, refuse to use indicators, drive out in front of other cars, overtake and force oncoming cars to pull into the side of the road, have no idea which lane to be in at roundabouts, don't drive suitably to adapt to the weather conditions......

Every time I make a twenty minute journey, I count at least 10 serious driving errors without even paying much attention.

People are just f'ing clueless. The death rates will continue to soar. I'm just surprised they aren't a lot higher.

[dahamsta]

Dear god, it's an eight year old thread man!

[Eminence Grise]

Ah, in fairness, Adam, he didn't break the speed limit in replying to the thread. Leading by example, and all that! I'm looking forward to more witty repartee in 2022.

[dahamsta]

I'll wait here.

[NeverFeltBetter]

We'll all be dead by road accidents by then.

[KK77]

It's not the Government's fault that people disobey speed limits, refuse to use indicators, drive out in front of other cars, overtake and force oncoming cars to pull into the side of the road, have no idea which lane to be in at roundabouts, don't drive suitably to adapt to the weather conditions......

Every time I make a twenty minute journey, I count at least 10 serious driving errors without even paying much attention.

People are just f'ing clueless. The death rates will continue to soar. I'm just surprised they aren't a lot higher.

I am shocked they aren't higher myself. Using indicators are a thing of the past did you not know?!!!! LOL

Don't get me started on drink driving......

[Macy]

Ah, in fairness, Adam, he didn't break the speed limit in replying to the thread.

I think I was stuck behind him trying to get to work!