Spurs/Arsenal Champions League Spot?

**klein4** · 10/05/2006, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Gonzo you have missed the point entirely. YOu could not provide any quotes to support your claim. It was just speculation. Just cause the speculation turns out to be what happens does not make it any more that pure speculation at the time. I wait for words from the horses mouth or in this case a letter from Daniel Levy. When that happened I put it up on the thread. You on the other had were prepared to go by a reporter in the Independent that was saying that spurs were going to ask for it to be replayed but he had no quotes to back it up.

it would be interesting alrite to see what Ruud has to say on all this.......

**Karlos** · 10/05/2006, 11:43 AM

I don't want to comment too much on the Levy complaint except to say that their is some valid points made as well as some wild assumptions & irrelavant comments.

The one thing I do want to comment on though is the timing of the letter. There is absolutely no reason why Spurs couldn't have lodged an immediate formal complaint before the game was even played or at the very least indicated they would be making it. It certainly would have held more credibility if they had done so and not 48 hours after the event. I don't believe for one minute that had Wigan managed to defeat Arsenal on Sunday that Spurs would still be handing this letter in. The circumstances suit Spurs to go down this route.

Finally puting my biased hat back firmly on (and making no apology for it), I must say I got a really good chuckle on hearing Daniel Levy commenting on 'the interests of fairness and good sporting practice'.

**geysir** · 10/05/2006, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by KarlosIRL

Finally puting my biased hat back firmly on (and making no apology for it),

I thought that hat was glued on full time

**NeilMcD** · 10/05/2006, 1:31 PM

[QUOTE=gonzo]You are some 'paragon of virtue',
QUOTE]

Why thank you, I am glad you have seen the light.

**klein4** · 10/05/2006, 3:53 PM

yeah but he was right. so in a way you should apologise, its not like you are talkin amongst your mates. he may be offended and really you should apologise for doubting the veracity of his comments when it was ll over all the papers.
apologise neilll!!!!!

**NeilMcD** · 10/05/2006, 3:58 PM

*************************************
The point I was saying that there was no proof that Spurs were about to ask for the game to be replayed. Gonzo did not offer any proof other than a newpaper article that failed to have a single quote from a Spurs source in it. Just cause it then turned out to be true does not make a single difference the point is it could easily have not been true. When reading papers people should look for quotes from reputable sources before saying something as fact.

Moderator: Post Edited, Please refrain from personal attacks. Warning sent!
pete

**klein4** · 10/05/2006, 4:07 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Go **** yourself you **** stirring *******. .

ah very mature....
I think you will find you implied that he was talkin sh*te about something when in fact he was on the money about it. and rather than admit that you just kept blathering and tried to change the subject.

btw please save your personal abuse for when you are out with your brothers/mates/work colleagues.

**Poor Student** · 10/05/2006, 4:28 PM

Neil and Klein, surprise surprise.

Klein, will you stop winding him up and Neil, will you stop rising to his bait? Thanks children.

**Karlos** · 10/05/2006, 9:42 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

I thought that hat was glued on full time

It's pound shop glue, I have to re-apply it every once in a while!

**klein4** · 10/05/2006, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

Neil and Klein, surprise surprise.

Klein, will you stop winding him up and Neil, will you stop rising to his bait? Thanks children.

children? and you are the essence of maturity when you resort to childish name calling? I wasnt winding anyone up. so save your condesending attitude. honestly the whole feckin thread has been one long row between the arsenal "more lawndon than the lawndoners themselves" fans and the "I dont really know if I could be classed as a spurs fan but they always have my good wishes" brigade(of one!!!!) So you can hardly blame me for OTHER(!!!!!!!!!) people resorting to name calling. and seeing as it has been ME who was getting abuse and it didnt particularly bother me I dont see what the problem is other than you want a big round of applause for being a moderator. congratulations on that one.

**Karlos** · 10/05/2006, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by klein4

I wasnt winding anyone up.

....but if you wait for the sentence after this one I'll have a stab at it!

Originally Posted by klein4

honestly the whole feckin thread has been one long row between the arsenal "more lawndon than the lawndoners themselves" fans and the "I dont really know if I could be classed as a spurs fan but they always have my good wishes" brigade(of one!!!!)

**NeilMcD** · 11/05/2006, 9:11 AM

Best of luck Karlos in the Champions League final Karlos. Also if people are not interested in either spurs or Arsenal than why bother post on this thread other than to wind people up.

**NeilMcD** · 11/05/2006, 9:31 AM

Following the decision on Wednesday to refuse our request for a replay of the West Ham game, Chairman Daniel Levy writes an open letter to supporters.

Dear Supporter

The Premier League has today rejected our request for a replay of Sunday's match against West Ham.

We are disappointed, but not surprised. We continue to feel justifiably aggrieved at the course of events and remain convinced that the game should never have been played. If the loss of over half a selected squad to an inexplicable illness in highly suspect circumstances does not warrant the postponement of a match, then I can only despair at the state of our governing rules.

In going ahead with the match, I trust you will appreciate that we chose the only safe option that would guarantee our already hard fought for place in European competition - and that, in making this request to the Premier League, we have fought to right an injustice.

I should stress that our purpose in taking this request to the Premier League was two-fold: Firstly to seek the replay we feel we rightly deserved, but, equally important, to highlight these wholly inadequate and ambiguous rules that fail to regulate such incidents. The Spanish Football Federation allowed for the postponement of an Atletico Madrid game earlier this year due to the illness of players. Keith Lamb, Chief Executive of Middlesborough, has previously referred to the 'incomplete' nature of our rules and called for the Premier League to review them, so that no other club would ever be faced with this situation again. We are therefore the second club to call on the Premier League to urgently review their processes and rules in this regard.

We are continuing to vigorously investigate the cause and origin of the illness. We shall leave no stone unturned in this quest. I know it may be extremely difficult to conclusively prove, but I am determined to, at the very least, establish whether or not this was a deliberate act of sabotage, striking at the very heart of the spirit of the competition. If there is a price to be paid, I shall look to ensure that it is paid. Additionally, if we do find any proof of foul play, we will bring this matter back to the FAPL without delay and will expect them to launch an immediate investigation in the interests of the integrity of the competition.

I have received many emails of support from you, our fans, welcoming our stand on this lack of fair play and I thank you for those. A recurring theme is the pride you all felt in our 'heroes' on the pitch on Sunday and that you are looking forward to our return to Europe. It has been a great season and we should refuse to let this mar the achievements of it and the optimism with which we will now greet the new season.

**NeilMcD** · 11/05/2006, 9:32 AM

Originally Posted by KarlosIRL

....but if you wait for the sentence after this one I'll have a stab at it!

Also I dont row with Karlos as he is one of the people on these board who has a bit of intelligence about him and a love for the game and is prepared to comment on issues in a constructive manner rather than just make snide and **** stirring comments at every hands turn.

**klein4** · 11/05/2006, 11:27 AM

karlos - that was hardly winding people up....look back over the thread ...
neil - not everyone who disagrees with you is "stirring"

**NeilMcD** · 11/05/2006, 11:31 AM

I know, I have disagreed with Owls Fan, Karlos, Stuttgart Eirebhoy and numerous other and none of them have stirred . However you do stirr **** in my opinion.

**Poor Student** · 11/05/2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by klein4

children? and you are the essence of maturity when you resort to childish name calling? I wasnt winding anyone up. so save your condesending attitude. honestly the whole feckin thread has been one long row between the arsenal "more lawndon than the lawndoners themselves" fans and the "I dont really know if I could be classed as a spurs fan but they always have my good wishes" brigade(of one!!!!) So you can hardly blame me for OTHER(!!!!!!!!!) people resorting to name calling. and seeing as it has been ME who was getting abuse and it didnt particularly bother me I dont see what the problem is other than you want a big round of applause for being a moderator. congratulations on that one.

Klein, you're winding him up and you know it. You know you two have a history and you're following him with silly comments and annoying him. Childish behaviour in my opinion. Neil, you relax and stop swearing, the filter is there for a reason. Keep your temper in check and stop getting risen by others. Klein, if you have a problem with my modding, by all means take it up somewhere else, like with Adam in the support forum.