Danish Newspaper Cartoons

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

anto, an american teenager just got shot by the cops for blasting a gay bar. are you seriously trying to tell me we react all that differently? itss a rule of law issue, not a religious one

true , i suppose i should have said that if something was ofensive to me i wouldnt burn down embassy's etc .

some good rules for life :
if you offended by a book/picture then dont read /look at it .
if your offended by gay men then dont watch gay men having sex .
if your offended by what some one is ssaying then dont talk to them .

maybe its a little too simple but it works for me im never offended

Some of the posts on this link are OTT but some do tell it as it is with legitimate press quotes.
See what you think....the Age of the Cartoon Wars ...

http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/in...wtopic&p=37069

The cartoons have only been publised in 1 muslim country (Jordan) & newspaper editor got sacked there. How can people in other countries be protesting when its fairly clear they can't have seen the cartoons? I suppose thats like the Presbyterians banning a movie they haven't seen.

I've also read that in some countries they have linked the cartoons with other nastiers version got somewhere to deliberately inflame the situation.

Of course islamic countries are now been shown up as hypocrites due to anti-semetic cartoons & commentary in their media.

Personally I think its about time Muslims got the **** over themselves. Rioting and killing people because some rag printed pictures of Mohammad in a supposedly humourous light is just pathetic. I've been brought up as a Christian, and even if I'm not completly on board with Christianity much anymore I'd be out rioting after watching South Park depict Jesus Christ have sex with Satan if I were even half the fanatic that those ****s are. But do I/or we as a Catholic country, do we f.uck. We have a bit of common sense, something those ****ing barbarians have no clue about. May sound racist here but barbarian and ****hole are the only words I can think of to describe anyone, Muslim, Christian or Scientologist who would create such a hurricane in a teacup.

And I'm ****ing sick of being told to have a 21st century viewpoint when it comes to them. Why the **** should I? Do they have a 21st century viewpoint about ANYTHING??

Rant over

What do ye think of this? A true test of free speech or tit for tat?

Originally Posted by strangeirish

What do ye think of this? A true test of free speech or tit for tat?

Intended as the latter surely. I say let them print away.

On the other hand, I call on Catholics across the globe to rise up and crush those who disrespect the fifth commandment.

Originally Posted by pete

Of course islamic countries are now been shown up as hypocrites due to anti-semetic cartoons & commentary in their media.

how can semetic arabs be anti-semetic?

all imagry of mohammed is a sin.

do american abortion clinics blow themselves up? remember the protest outside the us embassy in dublin when a judge in yeeha land banned irish dancing because she classed it as lapdancing? uda firebombing catholic churches and throwing urine at schoolgirls? the furore over the da vinci code?

there is nothing inherent in muslims to react worse than us in the liberal west. the rest is a law and order issue

Originally Posted by strangeirish

What do ye think of this? A true test of free speech or tit for tat?

Absolutely tit for tat and in doing so completely undermine their own reason for going on the rampage.

If they can riot because of Wetern newspaper caused offence then it doesn't follow, by their own argument, that they can publish cartoons to "cause offence" as they see it.........absolute nonsense and again, infantile. Any excuse to vent their violent tendencies...

Originally Posted by John83

Intended as the latter surely. I say let them print away.

On the other hand, I call on Catholics across the globe to rise up and crush those who disrespect the fifth commandment.

....and some of the scenes from Father Ted had me (as a R.C.) filled with uncontrollable anger as well

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

do american abortion clinics blow themselves up?

Where has anyone said that this is acceptable?

I also don't remember anyone being murdered over the publication of the da Vinci Code???

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

do american abortion clinics blow themselves up? remember the protest outside the us embassy in dublin when a judge in yeeha land banned irish dancing because she classed it as lapdancing? uda firebombing catholic churches and throwing urine at schoolgirls? the furore over the da vinci code?

How is all that relevant to (radical) Mulslims rioting & people dying as a result?

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

how can semetic arabs be anti-semetic?

What kind of pedantry is this? You know well what anti-semitism means in a modern context.

Originally Posted by Tired&Emotional

Absolutely tit for tat and in doing so completely undermine their own reason for going on the rampage.

If they can riot because of Wetern newspaper caused offence then it doesn't follow, by their own argument, that they can publish cartoons to "cause offence" as they see it.........absolute nonsense and again, infantile. Any excuse to vent their violent tendencies...

who are they? all arabs? its small groups of activists. in the same way we all dont smash up mcdonalds in the west.

from bbc.co.uk
Hamshahri says it wants to test the boundaries of free speech, echoing the reasons European papers gave for publishing the caricatures.

"Does the West's freedom of expression extend to... an event such as the Holocaust or is this freedom of expression only for the desecration of the sanctities of divine religions?" the best-selling paper said in its announcement

seems clear their intent to me.

Originally Posted by Tired&Emotional

How is all that relevant to (radical) Mulslims rioting & people dying as a result?

ill spell it out. radical christians also over-react, often with violent results.

the difference is law and order issue that surrounds their actions, and that is a direct result of development issues. we dont tolerate religious nutters in the rich west as easily in the poorer east.

Originally Posted by Tired&Emotional

Absolutely tit for tat and in doing so completely undermine their own reason for going on the rampage.

If they can riot because of Wetern newspaper caused offence then it doesn't follow, by their own argument, that they can publish cartoons to "cause offence" as they see it.........absolute nonsense and again, infantile. Any excuse to vent their violent tendencies...

Tit for tat works both ways. Will western newspapers publish these holocaust cartoons to defend their right to freedom of expression? These cartoons would be illegal in several western countries.

Being in favour of the freedom of speech means you support the right of people to express views that you hate. The Observer in sunday had some excellent articles on this.

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

who are they? all arabs? its small groups of activists. in the same way we all dont smash up mcdonalds in the west.

from bbc.co.uk
Hamshahri says it wants to test the boundaries of free speech, echoing the reasons European papers gave for publishing the caricatures.

"Does the West's freedom of expression extend to... an event such as the Holocaust or is this freedom of expression only for the desecration of the sanctities of divine religions?" the best-selling paper said in its announcement

seems clear their intent to me.



ill spell it out. radical christians also over-react, often with violent results.

the difference is law and order issue that surrounds their actions, and that is a direct result of development issues. we dont tolerate religious nutters in the rich west as easily in the poorer east.

I'll spell it out for you so: "they" in the context of this debate have been the subject of same from day 1 of the rioting. THE RIOTING MUSLIMS! get with the programme.

And in the context of what's gone on over the last week or so their intent is very clear!

Millions of people were murdered during the Holocost - we all know the details, have seen the pictures and heard the stories.
Not a single hair on any human beings' hair was harmed by these cartoons

how the hell can you attempt to justify the reasoning you have quoted from Hamshahri

Originally Posted by Bald Student

Tit for tat works both ways. Will western newspapers publish these holocaust cartoons to defend their right to freedom of expression? These cartoons would be illegal in several western countries.

See post 116 on reason why they wouldn't be published in the "West"

Originally Posted by Peadar

Where has anyone said that this is acceptable?

I also don't remember anyone being murdered over the publication of the da Vinci Code???

no-one per say, but their is an implication that us liberal christians wouldnt dream of, say, throwing urine at schoolchildern because they are catholic, oor gassing 8m people on the basis of their race.

us westerners were naughty long before them and have done far more damage to the world, and thats worth remembering in this discussion.

Originally Posted by John83

I've nothing to back this up with, so take it with a pinch of salt, but I've heard that Middle Eastern newspapers regularly run antisemitic cartoons with references to the holocost.

Well, it's a Jewish source, but at least it's some sort of source:
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-21.htm

Originally Posted by pete

Being in favour of the freedom of speech means you support the right of people to express views that you hate.

Do me a favour Pete, keep repeating that until it sinks in with everyone else. Cheers.

KOH