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    Question Who would make the new Premier league?

    If it was introduced, on the basis of support, facilities etc. Who do you think would/should make the new league?

    In no particular order, I think:

    Cork City,
    Derry City,
    Sligo Rovers,
    Shelbourne,
    Finn Harps,
    Galway United,
    Bohemians,
    Shams,
    Waterford United,
    Drogheda United.

    Is it 10 or 12 that's supposed to be in it? If 12, then I'd include, Longford and Limerick too.
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    i dont agree that it should be on that basis really would be very unfair on pats , bray and ucd that you have left out of there , results on the pitch should always be the determinant and money should be given to clubs whose infrastructures arent up to scratch

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    i think there should be two seperate leagues,one with country teams and another with all the Dub teams, and for all games in the dub league,no rules apply,batter the ****e into each other until 2 teams have one player left,those two teams are allowed with us buffs!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    If it was introduced, on the basis of support, facilities etc. Who do you think would/should make the new league?
    Any league chosen on the basis of support, facilities, etc. is a joke.

    There should be a 12-team Premier next season with the following teams -

    Bohs
    Bray
    Cork
    Derry
    Drogheda
    Dublin City
    Longford
    Pat's
    Shels
    Sligo
    UCD
    Waterford

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    If it was introduced, on the basis of support, facilities etc. Who do you think would/should make the new league?

    In no particular order, I think:

    Cork City,
    Derry City,
    Sligo Rovers,
    Shelbourne,
    Finn Harps,
    Galway United,
    Bohemians,
    Shams,
    Waterford United,
    Drogheda United.

    Is it 10 or 12 that's supposed to be in it? If 12, then I'd include, Longford and Limerick too.
    I wouldn't base it on support, but I would definitely base a lot of it on stadia. And in that case I would exclude Finn Harps and Waterford. I've never seen Drogs' ground but I've heard its not so good. Longford would def have to be included as they have a nice ground. But then again teams can always ground share so I'm not sure how that would work.

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    I'm not saying I agree with the format, it's just that's what is being mentioned so my selection is on those terms. I hate the idea tbh, it'd be a disgrace if the FAI did this to our league, but I wont be really surprised if they did cos it is the FAI after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    Any league chosen on the basis of support, facilities, etc. is a joke.

    There should be a 12-team Premier next season with the following teams -

    Bohs
    Bray
    Cork
    Derry
    Drogheda
    Dublin City
    Longford
    Pat's
    Shels
    Sligo
    UCD
    Waterford
    totaly agree - especially on the facilities part of it.

    I think every club should be encouraged (and pushed) to improve their facilities but I dont think it should determine what division they're in once they nominate a decent ground to play their european matches in (if they get there).

    To be honest I've stayed totally out of this propsed league reform thing as I dont know enough about it but my basic opinion is that clubs should be in a division on merit and not because they have loads of supporters, great facilities, etc. If clubs that have loads of supporters, great facilities, etc and are in division one well its up to them to get promoted on the pitch. And if they cant do that, it says alot for how the clubs with no supporters, sh!t facilities, etc that are in the Premier, are well run compared to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers1
    i think there should be two seperate leagues,one with country teams and another with all the Dub teams, and for all games in the dub league,no rules apply,batter the ****e into each other until 2 teams have one player left,those two teams are allowed with us buffs!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth
    Your a fool.
    Makes more sense to me than the FAI proposals/leaks tbh.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers1
    i think there should be two seperate leagues,one with country teams and another with all the Dub teams, and for all games in the dub league,no rules apply,batter the ****e into each other until 2 teams have one player left,those two teams are allowed with us buffs!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth
    Your a fool.
    Lets be honest, at least there is a competition for the spots in the league, i'd nearly even settle for picking two names out of a hat over letting one or two individuals hand pick who they would like in the Premier Division.

    It has to be based on something solid. Getting your attendances over a certain threshold should not be a prerequisite for taking part in a league.

    Oh and for the record, Dublin City is not a one man show. There are two full time staff and aside from playing and coaching staff there are at least three other part time employees who do actually work for the club. The club is excellently run, never has a problem with paying players or any other staff for that matter.

    A lot of clubs could take a leaf out of our book, and while we have a small crowd (we are only around for 5 seasons now) its growing steadly each and every season. We now have a fan base of 2/3 hundred people (we had 60/70 people in athlone at the end of last season), compared to around 50 during the 2002 season (an increase of 400%, if we continue in that vein, especially if the FAI / eL manage to start to look after itself, we could be touching 1,000 people within 4/5 years.

    It's not impossible, we just want to be given the chance to cultivate our own fan base, we don't want to steal anyones fans, we just want to bring more people to the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    If it was introduced, on the basis of support, facilities etc. Who do you think would/should make the new league?

    In no particular order, I think:

    Cork City,
    Derry City,
    Sligo Rovers,
    Shelbourne,
    Finn Harps,
    Galway United,
    Bohemians,
    Shams,
    Waterford United,
    Drogheda United.

    Is it 10 or 12 that's supposed to be in it? If 12, then I'd include, Longford and Limerick too.

    Why are you leaving St Pats out of this????

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    If it was introduced, on the basis of support, facilities etc. Who do you think would/should make the new league?

    In no particular order, I think:

    Cork City,
    Derry City,
    Sligo Rovers,
    Shelbourne,
    Finn Harps,
    Galway United,
    Bohemians,
    Shams,
    Waterford United,
    Drogheda United.

    Is it 10 or 12 that's supposed to be in it? If 12, then I'd include, Longford and Limerick too.
    Fo a start Rovers have no facilities to begin with.

    Drogheda and Harps have worse grounds then Inchicore the RCS is also a terriable place to watch football.

    Pats also get decent enough crowds for the position we're in at the minute better then some of the clubs mentioned in the above and certainly better then Longford and Limerick.

    So please stop talking ****e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    If it was introduced, on the basis of support, facilities etc. Who do you think would/should make the new league?

    In no particular order, I think:

    Cork City, Yep
    Derry City,yep
    Sligo Rovers,maybe
    Shelbourne,Possibly
    Finn Harps,Worst ground in league
    Galway United,have been getting rubbish crowds for years now
    Bohemians,maybe
    Shams,{b]No ground, avg crowds well under 1,000 and thats with 6/7 dublin derbies[/b]
    Waterford United,terrible ground, no fans
    Drogheda United.[rubbish ground[/b]

    Is it 10 or 12 that's supposed to be in it? If 12, then I'd include,
    Longford no fans
    and Limerick too.no groumd or fans
    And being totally honst I'd rather Pats were in the LSL than be part of this ****e...
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    It's fairly clear that Cork, Derry, Galway, Limerick, Waterford, Drogheda/Dundalk, Shelbourne and 1/2 other Dublin teams will be in. Sligo, Kilkenny, Longford or Athlone are the other possibles I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
    Cork City, Yep
    Derry City,yep
    Sligo Rovers,maybe
    Shelbourne,Possibly
    Finn Harps,Worst ground in league
    Galway United,have been getting rubbish crowds for years now
    Bohemians,maybe
    Shams,{b]No ground, avg crowds well under 1,000 and thats with 6/7 dublin derbies[/B]
    Waterford United,terrible ground, no fans
    Drogheda United.[rubbish ground
    [/B]

    Is it 10 or 12 that's supposed to be in it? If 12, then I'd include,
    Longford no fans
    and Limerick too.no groumd or fans
    Their is no way the FAI would leave Shams out of this, regardless of them not having a ground, they'd find a way of letting them in. Limerick, no ground yes but as for support, they have plenty of it considering their form etc. Harps(although they are getting a new ground) and Waterford after rethinking it, they probably wouldn't. Drogs have good support and their ground could improve with a little work. Galway would also get it, don't really see why they'd be guaranteed one but it'd happen.
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    To the doom & gloom merchants:

    A new 800 covered seater stand is going to start in the RSC towards the end of the upcoming season bringing the seating capacity to just under 2100. This will be in line with the other developments in the RSC which sees the erection of new toilets, turnstiles, all weather pitches and the relaying of the athletics track. When it is completed the RSC will be more than able to fulfill the UEFA licensing criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    Their is no way the FAI would leave Shams out of this, regardless of them not having a ground, they'd find a way of letting them in.
    Yeah, because the FAI have been so great to us in the past

    The builders should get the nod to go back on site in Tallaght in February, which would give us one of the better grounds in the league. Couple that alongside our debt-free status, above board finances, massive youth structure, community work and marketability and I'd be fairly confident we'd get in on merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passive
    Yeah, because the FAI have been so great to us in the past
    I didn't want to bring this up again but eh yeah, they have.
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    I dont agree with speculating on who will or wont get into a non existant league on the grounds that it will get everyone thinking that their club should get in and dull the debate on the actual structure.

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    The 10/12 teams that should make it are the teams that occupy the highest spots in the most recent Eircom League Premier Division to the time of change. End of story.

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