Who would make the new Premier league?

**monutdfc** · 26/01/2006, 9:51 PM

Which is exactly what will happen - Delaney will make enough promises to enough clubs to get his proposals through

**Dodge** · 26/01/2006, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Passive

The builders should get the nod to go back on site in Tallaght in February, which would give us one of the better grounds in the league.

But what if SDCC don't get the second tenant that they agreed to? And it can't be the GAA as the Dept. of Sport won't give any money to a project involving them. If SDCC or the FAI can't get Pats, Shels or Dublin City to move into tallaght, it might not go ahead...

**Passive** · 26/01/2006, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

If SDCC or the FAI can't get Pats, Shels or Dublin City to move into tallaght, it might not go ahead...

That is certainly not my understanding of the Tallaght deal.

**Dodge** · 26/01/2006, 10:58 PM

Did the SDCC not specify they needed two main tenants?

**NY Hoop** · 27/01/2006, 9:49 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Did the SDCC not specify they needed two main tenants?

Absolutely not. Paper talk.

Sligoman stay out of this you are clueless.

KOH

**Dodge** · 27/01/2006, 9:57 AM

No, I was told that by a guy who was that last meeting. Next meeting behind closed doors.

**Passive** · 27/01/2006, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

No, I was told that by a guy who was that last meeting. Next meeting behind closed doors.

Well, it's no secret that the Department and the FAI want you guys in Tallaght with us but I don't think completion of the stadium is hinging on your decision. There will be junior clubs sharing Tallaght with us anyway, my understanding is that we will be in Tallaght and then negotiations with you lads will begin.

**coislaoi** · 27/01/2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

The 10/12 teams that should make it are the teams that occupy the highest spots in the most recent Eircom League Premier Division to the time of change. End of story.

I don't often find myself agreeing with you but, yes, that is the only fair and equitable way to do it.

**Dodge** · 27/01/2006, 11:00 AM

Like I said it ws just that the SDCC agreed to it on the basis that it was to have 2 tenants there and they obviously had the GAA in mind. Then the D/Sport threw a spanner in so they have to look elsewhere. If we do move it'll be at the same time as you adn nuetral colours will prevail...

I'm totally against it BTW

**Bald Student** · 27/01/2006, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

The 10/12 teams that should make it are the teams that occupy the highest spots in the most recent Eircom League Premier Division to the time of change. End of story.

With the only exception being a club who doesn't meet licensing. I'd have little problem if my club was relegated fot having a rubbish stadium if we were told exacly what was needed and the process was transparant. But relegating a club over something as vague as 'marketability' is not on.

**Poor Student** · 27/01/2006, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Bald Student

I'd have little problem if my club was relegated fot having a rubbish stadium if we were told exacly what was needed and the process was transparant.

It would depend on the criteria. If it has turnstyles, toilets, a few hundred roofed seats, a gantry and dressing rooms I don't know what more could be looked for. I hear people going on about grounds lacking facilities but what do people want? A plush reception area at half time where a servant will bring you your smoking jacket and slippers while you enjoy your conjack and your cigar on your arm chair?

**Bald Student** · 27/01/2006, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

... a few hundred roofed seats...

If you're aiming to improve the league so that corwds of a few thousand attend games the first thing is to have stadia capble of holding them. Belfield Park needs to be replaced. The UEFA licnese gives every club 5 years to do that. That process is fine, and could probably do with being speeded up. It's very different than what's being proposed now though.

**Poor Student** · 27/01/2006, 12:40 PM

We know that we've never going to need 2k seats at Belfield, why would we build them? This same dilemma appeared in the SPL. Clubs were required to have 10k seater stadia but clubs like Livingston and Inverness Caley are never going to fill that, at least not right away. In the end the SPL dumped the criteria.

**Roverstillidie** · 27/01/2006, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Like I said it ws just that the SDCC agreed to it on the basis that it was to have 2 tenants there and they obviously had the GAA in mind. Then the D/Sport threw a spanner in so they have to look elsewhere. If we do move it'll be at the same time as you adn nuetral colours will prevail...

I'm totally against it BTW

that is totally different to everone elses understanding of the deal. we are due to be in this season coming.
the Dept have not 'thrown a spanner', their intervention wasnt a suprise and is very much in rovers favour.
why give us anchor tenant rights and look for a co-tenent?

**Bald Student** · 27/01/2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

We know that we've never going to need 2k seats at Belfield, why would we build them? This same dilemma appeared in the SPL. Clubs were required to have 10k seater stadia but clubs like Livingston and Inverness Caley are never going to fill that, at least not right away. In the end the SPL dumped the criteria.

Our biggest crowd last season was 2,400. The season before it was 1,600. It's not unreasonable to expect to be able to put a roof over that many heads. The original, fudged, requirement was for 1,500 seats, minimum. For a small premier club like UCD that's about right, I think.

**pete** · 27/01/2006, 1:28 PM

Waterford & Harps wouldn't make top 12 based on support, catchment area or facilities.

**sligoman** · 27/01/2006, 1:45 PM

Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Sligoman stay out of this you are clueless.

Yes sir!

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**hoopy** · 29/01/2006, 9:33 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Their is no way the FAI would leave Shams out of this, .

I think it's around 5 weeks since you've managed to hide your bitterness towards us, well done

**feo123** · 29/01/2006, 12:47 PM

We should definately get in!! we got 1500 supporters for every game last year and 3000-4000 for the last few games!
we have one top class new stand which seats around 1600 and another good stand which seats around 800! money may be a slight issue though...but with our new all-weather pitch giving us great revenue and if the crowds keep increasing we will get lots of money there too!